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@Cranberry
I don't mean to ruffle feathers as a newbie, nor do I mean any offense, but based on the comments section here and how the battle forums look it....seems like you're doing a bad job then. What the user base is requesting seems to be being ignored, and while I know the users aren't always right and inevitably you will make some people angry I just.....don't understand the choices being made that make battling as a whole so hard to get into. It's very gatekeep-y and difficult and really does seem like "should have been here 10 years ago" is the way it operates and it chases a lot of people off because of it.
I don't mean to ruffle feathers as a newbie, nor do I mean any offense, but based on the comments section here and how the battle forums look it....seems like you're doing a bad job then. What the user base is requesting seems to be being ignored, and while I know the users aren't always right and inevitably you will make some people angry I just.....don't understand the choices being made that make battling as a whole so hard to get into. It's very gatekeep-y and difficult and really does seem like "should have been here 10 years ago" is the way it operates and it chases a lot of people off because of it.
Battling is the one area of the site I love to hate.
Not the community mind you-- the community itself is great!
But the lack of accessibility to the community boils my blood.
I genuinely don't understand the reasoning behind locking so much access away just so a few handfuls of people can 'keep their investments'.
Why is this the one community where staff jumps over backwards for a small set of people while keeping the rest of a possible new community from joining?
And before someone belittles me by saying 'Not everything should be handed to you!' I'm literally not asking for that, and those people aren't the only people on the site who have worked really hard on their pets. I'd like to be able to earn my items the same way they did. Thanks.
Not the community mind you-- the community itself is great!
But the lack of accessibility to the community boils my blood.
I genuinely don't understand the reasoning behind locking so much access away just so a few handfuls of people can 'keep their investments'.
Why is this the one community where staff jumps over backwards for a small set of people while keeping the rest of a possible new community from joining?
And before someone belittles me by saying 'Not everything should be handed to you!' I'm literally not asking for that, and those people aren't the only people on the site who have worked really hard on their pets. I'd like to be able to earn my items the same way they did. Thanks.
@Cranberry
Honestly I couldn't tell you exactly because I would have to try to search back through old forum posts or news comment sections, and maybe I am mistaken. But I seem to recall it being mentioned that a Gelatin War wasn't going to happen this year because y'all were working on ~other battle things~ which I guess was this.
Also on another note, I really do wish there could be some kind of knock-off or wearable only version of some of the weapons, because again, a lot of these actually look pretty cool but almost nobody will wear them because they're so expensive and unobtainable for many people.
Honestly I couldn't tell you exactly because I would have to try to search back through old forum posts or news comment sections, and maybe I am mistaken. But I seem to recall it being mentioned that a Gelatin War wasn't going to happen this year because y'all were working on ~other battle things~ which I guess was this.
Also on another note, I really do wish there could be some kind of knock-off or wearable only version of some of the weapons, because again, a lot of these actually look pretty cool but almost nobody will wear them because they're so expensive and unobtainable for many people.
@SpiritMessenger We have "so much power" because, as the Battle Admins, this is our entire job. We stat all challengers and weapons, and we're responsible for maintaining the battle economy and making sure weapons don't succumb to power creep. Other admins may not battle, or may not have a good idea of how releasing certain things can affect the value of others. We work with the other admins when determining whether to re-release things and how many to release. That said, if anyone made a comment about how we'd kill them, they were joking. The other admins aren't afraid of us. :P
this is crap, why i find battling horrible but you have too if you want challenger loot, ugh. :/
Purge
STAFF
The Scythe and the Purifying Staff were indeed supposed to be released years ago via another method, but that never materialized so we stuffed them into the box.
That Saheric Crescent Scythe is pretty. - Same with the spork if that's seriously in these boxes. Not every day we get another T12 added.
I'm with spiritmessenger and the rest of the comments here. a 9 billion sp LOOTBOX are you JOKING.
also 100% wtf-ing at "we can't make the admins mad uwu" message.
also 100% wtf-ing at "we can't make the admins mad uwu" message.
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Jesus. I guess it's finally time that the other two weapons were released...i cannot believe i've been patiently waiting since LAST NOVEMBER for you and purge to finally get it together and release theonly for it to be part of this!
They were added to the wardrobe, WITH BATTLE STATS, all the way back in Dec 2018, judging from their ID.
That gorgeous Spork was added to the wardrobe, AGAIN, WITH STATS, in Nov 2020.
So excuse me for not believing that these RNG sP sinks are ever going to see the light of day again.
We've been asking for these weapons to be re-released for YEARS!
Also curious as to if 9bil is what you value god weapons at, why is wrath and SoSS available for 4.5bil?
In other news, the comment section is very validating right now. I rage quit battling a few months ago and I'm still very salty.
@Avel
Why do they have that much power? Why does making them angry matter so much? That's hella screwed up.
Why do they have that much power? Why does making them angry matter so much? That's hella screwed up.
@Cranberry
you'll have to excuse me for not trusting that this will "come back as a winnable prize in the future," or being happy that we're relegated to winning or buying actual [expletive] loot boxes, or losing out on a gelatin war in favor of nearly six months of hinting at "battle stuff" that turned out be nothing more than a money sink!
i cannot believe i've been patiently waiting since LAST NOVEMBER for you and purge to finally get it together and release the
only for it to be part of this!
you'll have to excuse me for not trusting that this will "come back as a winnable prize in the future," or being happy that we're relegated to winning or buying actual [expletive] loot boxes, or losing out on a gelatin war in favor of nearly six months of hinting at "battle stuff" that turned out be nothing more than a money sink!
i cannot believe i've been patiently waiting since LAST NOVEMBER for you and purge to finally get it together and release the
@SpiritMessenger You're probably referring to the godlies. With absolute top weapons like that, we have to be very careful that we don't undervalue them and ruin people's investments. I suspect we'll actually annoy some people by pricing them at "only" 9 bil (they've been selling for a lot more in the past few years), but we did a lot of research and determined that current prices were inflated and 9 bil has consistently been the godlies' true value. As for the Fanciful Box, it will be available as a battle event prize, so people who don't want to buy it can earn it later, no SP needed. Like my co-admin Purge said over in the Battle Chat, we'd never cut off the supply of demi-godlies like that.
9 billion is a pretty good price for a godly... The originals are all relics of the past, and alternatives exist (many earned from battling). There is no reason to punish people who has earn them in the past or purchase them with savings by flooding the market with them. Instead, I look forward to new weapon and prizes for events.
@SpiritMessenger
Amber accidentally re-released acorn bombs and the Battle Admins got really mad. The rest part of that is the acorn bomb is also a food, so if you're interested in having a gourmet pet, you're shit out of luck. If you're a new player, too bad, you should have joined ten years ago if you were going to battle.
Amber accidentally re-released acorn bombs and the Battle Admins got really mad. The rest part of that is the acorn bomb is also a food, so if you're interested in having a gourmet pet, you're shit out of luck. If you're a new player, too bad, you should have joined ten years ago if you were going to battle.
9 billion? Guess I won't bother, see what other people get and maybe buy something later.
I wonder if we will be battling a big boss, perhaps the mysterious someone who is possessing npc's?
I also want to point out that you're basically asking us to gamble 9bil sp on a loot box, without any guarantee of anything useful coming out of it, because you're not even giving us the courtesy of letting us know what can come out. Or if we can choose what item comes out.
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Apologies if this comes across a bit harshly, but what kind of events do you mean exactly? We've already been told that there won't be a Gelatin War this year, and the site as a whole has been pretty quiet in terms of events and plots (outside of the annual things) for several years. So I don't really have much hope of this happening any time soon.We'll be giving out Fanciful Boxes as future battle event prizes
Wait, did you just lock weapons behind a sP gate AGAIN?!
For god's sake, have you not listened to the battlers?
For god's sake, have you not listened to the battlers?
I have never been able to log into new.subeta.net and I thought that a lot of people couldn't... see a lot of people can I guess. :( I feel so lost
I'm new here but from day 1 when I was looking at battling I could tell it was gatekeepy and bs and the only reason I'm training my pets at all is for their jobs. I see that people have been begging for some of these to be rereleased for literally years, that they want battle challenges and things like that not.....stupidly expensive random chance boxes. Especially for stuff that's wearable and/or has an achievement attached. And I remember seeing comments about how the battle mods would kill if certain items were rereleased which just.....seems really off to me? Like why do they have that kind of power? I'm sorry but this all seems really strange and very poorly handled in terms of rereleasing stuff that people have been begging for so like, I don't get it.
The cost isn't actually the worst part, it's the arbitrary 125 limit for an item that includes things that used to be more achievable through hard work. Now you get a box eventually under unknown conditions that MIGHT have what you want. Maybe.
Interesting, doesn't seem to want to load on mobile though? Just gives me a white page after spinning for a while.
Well, my internet is so slow now, I thought my purchase didn't work, it was out of stock, but then I saw my sp had gone down by a lot, so it worked
well I am glad to be able to get weapons I would probably never get otherwise
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I knew there was a reason not to bother with battling. All things aside, it's too grinding for me. Shit, I don't even like playing pokemon anymore.
I'm just kind of a casual battler, I'm pretty much satisfied with the weapons I've earned from past events and stuff and I can beat most opponents that I want to. I've never really felt a reason personally to try to collect every single expensive weapon on the site, so I guess this doesn't really matter that much to me.
I do kind of feel for the people who would want the weapons as wearables though, a lot of the expensive weapons look really cool worn on the HAs. Unfortunately you hardly ever see anyone wear them because they are either sitting on dead accounts on in people's armories.
I do kind of feel for the people who would want the weapons as wearables though, a lot of the expensive weapons look really cool worn on the HAs. Unfortunately you hardly ever see anyone wear them because they are either sitting on dead accounts on in people's armories.