From what I've heard, avbljf, the staff, or atleast some part of it, want the pets expressions to be ambiguous so people can decide the personality themselves-- they don't have to be happy pets.

cute but why is it all the redrawn pets are looking shy/not as happy?

Well new Canis is really, really cute but... I don't know, I guess I'm so use to old one, with it's big fluffy feet. ^^ But new is ok too. <3 May the best one win. ^^

I really like the Canis we have now best, (it's the whole reason I joined)

Rah, I'd really like to say thank you for being so understanding to those users who had issues with the redraw. You're so considerate and easy to talk to... potentially one of the best staff artists on the site.

nod looking forward to it, Rah, I've always loved your art. Though I'm annoyed with the general trend toward expressionless pets, I get the point of it....it just seems like a rip for all the 'common' colors that you have to have something special (ie expensive) in order for your pet to have a "personality". But that's a rant for a different time and place.

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<br>but seriously, the old one needs to stay. It's 1000 v 1300 for the new one, but if you factor into this that the majority of the new voters just vote new for the heck of it, old wins.

wth is this?
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wth is this?
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Tought choice really. I voted for the old one, but mainly because I prefer its eyes and general facial expression. It looks totally gleeful.
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<br>I prefer the new ones legs, ears, tail and chest hair, so very almost prefer that.
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<br>Either way I guess I don't mind too much. Both are absolutely beautiful, and I can't ever see myself owning one anyway cos there are too many other pets that are far superior in my eyes. Who needs a fluffy bunny when you can have a scaly beast?! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0> <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>

<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">And I don't see how people think that the canis is part dog part rabbit</blockquote><br>
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<br>I think as mentioned before Canis' are meant to be part rabbit part dog.After all,if I'm not mistaken,"Canis" is the first part of the technical term for a dog "Canis lupus familiaris".(Got it of Wikipedia <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>).And I can't WAIT to see you're new Canis Rah! =D

I HAVE REDRAWN THIS AGAIN - So you can stop worrying if you don't like this one :p I've put all the changes in place, hopefully you'll like the new one!

The new one looks cute, but I personally prefer the old one. It's so bouncy and full of life, and bunnies are always on the move. I don't like the pose of the new one as it simply looks too boring; Pets were meant to move, not stand there motionless.

Oh My Goodness!!! I love it! It's so cute! And I don't see how people think that the canis is part dog part rabbit, it seems full blown rabbit to me. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_whatthe.gif border=0>

Rah-kins has updated the bunny-dog! xDD How did I know this was coming?
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<br>Well, as usual, Nataku must open her big mouth now and say a couple things, because she lacks the sense to know when to shut up =)
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<br>1. omg EARS! FLOOFY! Just - so big - and cute - and, wow, we know know it part rabbit alright xD
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<br>2. Toes - could be bigger. As has been said at least fifty times and I'm sure you're sick of hearing it by now. Rabbits have big feet, not tiny ones. After all, if you were hopping and running around like a rabbit, wouldn't you want big feet to balance on?
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<br>3. Tail. is. a. cotton. ball. That's not a bad thing, its cute, and floofy.... floofy is my word for the Canis xD One thing though, the black line going through the Canis' tail, dividing the uppe from the lower, could that be made less.... bold? What's the word... it seems very strong, abrupt... I think the tail would look a little less divided if the line was removed, made thinner, or made some other color.
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<br>4. Canis is Rabbit-Dog correct? And the legs are supposed to be canine? Then, please, pretty pretty please, make the legs longer. This is a terrier - Canis running around right now, and that makes my eye twitch xP
<br>Besides, as I can't help but say with my old rant, if it's name is going to be "Canis" it should have at least <i>some</i> canine features. Otherwise it just makes no sense. If its supposed to be all rabbit (which, as I believe you've already said, it wasn't) it should be called a "Lupis" or something of the sort....
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<br>I'm voting new. I think its cute and the ears = love, and I trust Rah to be the awesome artist that she is and tweak all of the things that the users have mentioned and make the Canis even more loveable. =)

Now I think the Feli or Velosotor need an update. Sorry if those have already been mentioned.

It has the head of a rabbit and the body and leg shape of a puppy. I like it! votes for new

Also, just remember I have psd files to all of the newer canises, namely the hydrus, reborn, bloodred and spectrum. So I can change ALL minute details on those Canises as well, to match this one.

When you look at this new canis besides the uniquely posed ones (Example Angelic/Bloodred) Most of th kinks work themselves out <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>
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<br>Like the ears, good pose, but the bottoms are way to huge and if left like that then all the other canis colors not going through the revamp would look out of species.
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I wasn't a big fan of the canis neither, but I love bunnies.. so I decided to give making a canis a chance =) I like the bloodred and the chibi canis the best.
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Hmm.. I'm not sure. I don't really like Canis very much, except in their bloodred, graveyard and angelic forms..

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<br>eh. they could be better.

The new one's almost 'too' cute. I like how the old one looks like it's having fun.

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This one is still not bunny like enough, please make it more like a bunny, not a dog...

Rah starts fixing things that people have mentioned
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<br>And yeah, i'm trying NOT to make it so 'happy' for the benefit of those users who don't have happy bunnies :p It's supposed to be expressionless!

It's a very pretty drawing Rah <3 But I did have to vote for the old Canis even though I love the new one very much. I am repeating what a lot of people have already said but I think the biggest thing it's the new one is a very standard pose whilst the old one had a sense of movement and activity to it which is why I have a Canis.

I think that the new one looks great!
<br>Good Work!

The new one's ears are incredibly huge...

The face and ears just look... wrong. I hate the new one. The old one was so much cuter.

<b>Quote:</b><blockquote style="padding:5px; line-height:15px; background-color: #FAFFFF; border: 1px solid #000000; font-family: georgia; font-size: 10;">It is Like some of you want to see Anorexic Pets</blockquote><br>
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<br>Just what I was getting at,although the new one still has that little spark,in it's eyes and the smile on it's mouth.<br><br>
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<br>I think the new Canis is wonderful,and beautifully drawn Rah =) But I LOVED the pose on the old one,so that would be what I would miss most.This new one seems to have lost it's flair somewhat,although it's a fantastic drawing,it just doesn't seem to fit the Canis.The ears <3 and the paws I could get used to,but I just loved that old pose!!However,the shading is brilliant,and a lot more complex than the old one,and although I liked the big paws on the old one,I love the more rounded paws on this one.And the eyes I think are great!It gives a wonderful expression =D The chest fluff I love too,although I did like the random white line around the old one.And the tail! <33333 Such beautiful shading =D Sorry for going on a bit,hope it helps! =)

I think the biggest thing is how expressionless the new one is. The other one had so much movement and flow and personality. This one looks like it could care less about anything. Pep it up a bit and you've got a winner.

I like the old one better. I think the new one's legs look funny. :/

Because the Easter Bunny here IS a Canis, lol!

I voted for the new, because I've been aching to see a redrawn canis to catch up with how pretty all of the non-standard-pose colors are <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif border=0> Although, I do have a few small crits with this. I personally love the huge ears and the small paws, and the pose has a lot of potential energy to it--he looks very curious, like he's come over to sniff at something, but will bolt as soon as it moves, which seems VERY rabbity to me and has a lot of personality in it. Something about the face gets me, though; I think the shape of the eyes makes him look a tad chubby in the cheek area, and the nose is too small in relation to the face, which makes the smile seem more....worried, I guess...than jovial.
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I really like the new one <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
<br>It reminds me of the Easter bunny a bit, though.

I love it, Rah. <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif border=0>
<br>Just...please give him bigger paws. D: And more chest fluff.
<br>And...since you can make him CUTER, do it!!! <3
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ooh the feet could have been just a liiittttllleeee bit bigger <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy_sweatdrop.gif border=0> lol <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif border=0>

this canis is good but I do agree with the belly chest fluff part... But I will like to see a new change... the other one seemed a little bit too jolly... but that may just be me... That tail could have been better too ^^; but other than that it is AWSOME!! lol x3

I accidentally voted for the new one. NO! <img src=/images/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif border=0>

I love the old canis, its better in many simple ways, simply, it takes up more room in the 200 x 200 px image, and this one has tiny feet, that really dont appeal to its body.
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After looking pretty closely at this new canis, I've noticed something about the main body.
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<br>It's late at night, so it is possible for my eyes to be messing with my head. But I just took a real good look at it and that part stuck out to me.
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I have to agree with mythica's and Flare's opinion on having a leaner body... I own a rabbit, and have before in the past as well, and they definitely have a more lean look once they start hopping around (I know they can look like they're chubby sometimes because of how the sit XD it's still so cute though). I suppose for these reasons, and some other ones that others have already pointed out, I voted for the older version. Don't get me wrong, it's some great art, just not what I personally like.

I love this revamp. The small paws, big ears, and the overall pose appeals to me.
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<br>And Tracy, I understand what your saying. I've owned three rabbits, though I currently only own one and can speak for her- sometimes their stomach does get a bit pudgy, but no matter what their fur does make them look bigger. I find nothing wrong with the size of the revamped canis.

Well then the fur makes them appear fat. Whatever! This Canis is adorable to me.

i like them both the old one was so happy and entergetic the new one is cute i'm not shere about the ears though.

Tracy, I've had three pet rabbits, and they were well-fed, and lean. They only look fat when they're sitting down all bunched up. Under all that fur, they're quite fit. >___> Not to mention more canines are thin as well.

It looks like the Angelic one, which is cute but....I prefer the old one just because well....well because the old one had a longer like body. Like its up and ready to go. The old one looked entergetic....er. This one looks round..ish. It's cute, but I much rather like the old one. Though, kudos to the drawer its really nice work.

I did not mean the old Canis was anorexic but what I mean people are all saying this pet is fat that pet is fat etc. Most bunnies are fat. Yes I know the Canis is part dog. I think that tail is very dog like.

I find that this one's better then the one we have now. To me there is such a thing as too cute. I also feel that this one is better drawn then the one we have now. Or do I think this because I like this one better?