Cash Shop Poll
We are considering changing the system that operates the Cash Shop. This means implementing a 'point' based system.
Point Based System
The point based system would operate on $1 USD = 100 Cash Shop Points. This means that instead of purchasing the items directly, you'd purchase 'points', and then go to the cash shop and purchase items with your points.
This adds another step - but there are a few reasons I think that you will like it better ;)
Pros
- You can save up points. If you're only able to spend $5 a month on Subeta, but want something that has a price tag of $30, you can save up your monthly points until you have 3,000 points.
- More selection. We can add items for 100 points, or even as low as 50 points. We could add a set of clothing that would otherwise not be able to be added; for 100 points each, and you'd be able to get them.
Cons
- Another step. You have to buy the points and THEN buy the item that you'd like.
- We have to set a minimum point limit.
Click here to vote in the poll, or here to read the forum post relating to this ;) (more information!)
Posted by Keith
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another con: ew maths! I mean, not much math, but still....
As long as it will leave items costing the same I'm all for it. Meaning DPs would cost 250 points, Eternal= 3,000 points etc? If so then I don't see why not. I like the idea of being able to save the points. It's like Rescreatu does....
I like the idea, but I think it should be like, 1 point to 1 dollar or something. xD Would be much simpler. And people might be like, oh, I'm not paying 5095823 points for ____!! but if it was a smaller number they might. <br />
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And points should be items, tokens, like wizard tokens that are exchangeable on the site itself ;D
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And points should be items, tokens, like wizard tokens that are exchangeable on the site itself ;D
<strong>Nestly:</strong> Oh jeeze... I don't know which one to pick. xD They're both fine in my opinion, but I think the point system is more familiar on other sites and it's simply just... 'funner' saving up your points to get a bigger prize, if you will.<br />
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I think it's more game like, and most people would like it, so I vote point system. :3
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I think it's more game like, and most people would like it, so I vote point system. :3
thats sound nice... and no I don't think we should be able to buy the amount we want... I mean it should be multiple of 5... like 5$, 10$, 15$, 20$... easier to deal with for you. Still won't make me give real money to Subeta tough... personal thing...<br />
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As a reply to dark, well you just have to do your best to keep your account safe and a low amount of those points too... but again it's easy to get frozen here...
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As a reply to dark, well you just have to do your best to keep your account safe and a low amount of those points too... but again it's easy to get frozen here...
I like the idea. One more step doesn't bother me, and being able to save my points would be great seeing as some months I can afford $100+ to donate to my favourite site, but others I can't even afford to buy 1 DP.<br />
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I have a few other thoughts, but I imagine others have already brought them up in the forums, so I shall flit over there and read up. Barring anything incredibly stupid (which I'm sure is highly unlikely) I'm sure I'll be voting new.
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I have a few other thoughts, but I imagine others have already brought them up in the forums, so I shall flit over there and read up. Barring anything incredibly stupid (which I'm sure is highly unlikely) I'm sure I'll be voting new.
The only thing I'm a little Leary about with this is if your account gets hacked and you have unused points. Before you might only loose items but now it might fold over into what you've been saving up for with your points that you paid for, and then it's gone completely and you've wasted more money at a second glance over a long period of time then a shorter one. Maybe add the 'Pin' system for safety for the cash shop points?
I'm in for it. I use paypal but I don't own a credit card, so I'll have to wait 5 days or so for my echecks to clear, painfuly long when a new item comes out, like the two amazing new sets from the trunks. xD ordered them today<br />
With this system I could buy myself a pile of points to use when I saw stuff I wanted. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> votes for new
With this system I could buy myself a pile of points to use when I saw stuff I wanted. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> votes for new
I don't like it =( <br />
It's too complicated for me.. and I'd be confused and probably end up getting too many/not enough points ._. Sorry and all, but I deeply prefer it the way it is now.
It's too complicated for me.. and I'd be confused and probably end up getting too many/not enough points ._. Sorry and all, but I deeply prefer it the way it is now.
Keith
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No - These points are for <strong>money</strong>, and bringing in revenue to the site. <br />
Eh, it's been working for MS for years, so I don't see why it wouldn't work here. The only issue I've had with Nexon's system is I always tend to have a few spare points left over, but if you're going to have stuff down in the 10-50 point range then it shouldn't be a problem.
I don't know if I like the minimum limit being as high as $5, although I realize that has a lot of benefits to Subeta from a transaction cost standpoint. I like the fact that we can buy just one thing for $2.50 now, if we want to. The $5 minimum is one of the things that puts me off buying stuff at the NC Mall.<br />
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I do appreciate that there has to be SOME minimum, though.<br />
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I assume (read: hope) that this will be set up so you can add ANY amount of points over the minimum, rather than being like the NC mall where you can only add increments of $5?<br />
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In general, though, I like the idea. I think it would be nice to have an assortment of cheaper items available. For example, though I love the new costume trunks, there are a lot of costume trunks for which I only want ONE item. If it's not selling at a reasonable price in sP then I just do without since I don't want to spend $5 on a set where I only want one item (even though I know I can sell the unwanted items for sP). <br />
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With a system like this you could (if you wanted) release sets like this with each item available individually (maybe with a discount if you buy a whole set at once) so if there's only one item in a set we really want, we could buy just that item. <br />
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Though I'm afraid that if you do this, my wishlist may get a lot longer...
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I do appreciate that there has to be SOME minimum, though.<br />
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I assume (read: hope) that this will be set up so you can add ANY amount of points over the minimum, rather than being like the NC mall where you can only add increments of $5?<br />
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In general, though, I like the idea. I think it would be nice to have an assortment of cheaper items available. For example, though I love the new costume trunks, there are a lot of costume trunks for which I only want ONE item. If it's not selling at a reasonable price in sP then I just do without since I don't want to spend $5 on a set where I only want one item (even though I know I can sell the unwanted items for sP). <br />
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With a system like this you could (if you wanted) release sets like this with each item available individually (maybe with a discount if you buy a whole set at once) so if there's only one item in a set we really want, we could buy just that item. <br />
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Though I'm afraid that if you do this, my wishlist may get a lot longer...
This still assumes that everyone can use Paypal to buy these points ... It still really hasn't taken into account the people who can't buy the points with Paypal .... what about a conversion of sP into points so that non-Paypal users can still get hold of the points ???<br />
Other than that , I don't have a problem with it because I have and use Paypal ...
Other than that , I don't have a problem with it because I have and use Paypal ...
I don't know if this has been addressed, but would these points be something that users could sell to other users for sP? So if you're only limited to $5, but want an item that costs $10 (and are eager to get that item), could you buy those additional points from someone else?
I really like this idea. =D<br />
Now I can save up for a high priced item, and not have to buy it all at once.
Now I can save up for a high priced item, and not have to buy it all at once.
Yeah.. :C If this isn't some new currency it feels like adding a step.<br />
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Money for points for items instead of money for items.
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Money for points for items instead of money for items.
But can it also be a maximum point limit you buy per month? Because let's say i want an item worth 3000 and save up for it, but by the time i get to buy it, it already deflated to the point that's not worth buying/saving points for.
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So the Cash Shop would turn into the Point Shop where we would buy Points. Then we would go to the Cash Shop and use our Points to buy items there?<br />
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It seems to make more work. I don't get it.
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It seems to make more work. I don't get it.
I'm inbetween i like some parts of one and some parts on the other >_< I'd just like the cash shop to work for me T_T
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Slaytanic, there's been a cash shop for a while. Now it's just getting a little more organized and more user friendly.<br />
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I fail to see how that's at all like Neo.
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I fail to see how that's at all like Neo.
Eah. Shrugs I've seen it before, I don't really see how this way will make a big difference, besides the $2.50 paypal thinger. When would this likely be put into effect? - For curiosities sake?
I like this because Paypal has made some changes, at least that I have noticed that force me to do eChecks now instead of instant transfers and I hate waiting for the items to show up. This way I could have credits on hand and spend them when I want something...
this is an interesting idea...it would definitely be good for things like those mystical plushies but at the same time it seems a little pointless but then again, I'm using my own money and my own paypal account. I can definitely see it from the POV of others who have a set allowance their parents give and would allow them to save up for those big things so, all in all, the extra click to get the item after the points wouldn't be so bad I suppose.
Would these points actually be an exchangeable currency among users or would they be only accessible by the buyer and usable in the Cash Shop?
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Some people have shared family Paypal accounts, and if you don't spend the money you've been given, someone else will.<br />
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Some people have shared family Paypal accounts, and if you don't spend the money you've been given, someone else will.<br />
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First there is no point as you could save up your $5 a month on paypal untill you get $30 o.O and you could sell stuff for under 1 dollar anyway :S
Will the extra money generated by this be going to fix the lag/server downtime? 'Cause I could behind it then.
Keith
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Hmm, Slaytanic?<br />
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I believe plenty of places used this method before Neopets. Considering that they hired Nexon (who makes Maplestory) to do their NCMall (and Nexon had this method years before Neopets) - that just shows that they aren't the only ones doing it.
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I believe plenty of places used this method before Neopets. Considering that they hired Nexon (who makes Maplestory) to do their NCMall (and Nexon had this method years before Neopets) - that just shows that they aren't the only ones doing it.
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As long as the minimum is reasonable, it's a great idea. I could add in bits of grade money at a time so my parents won't notice my extreme subeta addiction. <br />
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Hooray!
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Hooray!
but i like the idea. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> and since there will be more items in the shop as said in the news post. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
What would make it better was if we could use mobile phones to pay. My parents don't let me use their Paypal so i can't buy anything <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" /><br />
Other than that, it's a good idea.
Other than that, it's a good idea.
Keith
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Magda, it's based on the same system that Neopets (and XBL, and Gaia, and lots of other sites XD) uses <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /><br />
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And, yes. The minimum would most likely be $5.
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And, yes. The minimum would most likely be $5.
I love this idea. As long as points never expire, I'd be happy with it.<br />
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If there were some other way than Paypal to pay that would be nice too...I don't have an active credit card, but I get cash often, so...sending money orders would be nice, albeit a tad less convenient :/
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If there were some other way than Paypal to pay that would be nice too...I don't have an active credit card, but I get cash often, so...sending money orders would be nice, albeit a tad less convenient :/
I wouldn't see why they couldn't allow the gifting option, since you already bought and payed for the points and it's up to you what you use it for. ^^ <br />
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Maybe they would have to make it so you have to wait until the payment goes through to prevent fake charges though.
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Maybe they would have to make it so you have to wait until the payment goes through to prevent fake charges though.
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What would the minimum purchase limit be? Like $5?
i don't care as long as the prices of the items don't inflate by too much. but it seems like the neopets NC points doesn't it?
Keith
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The added step is just picking out what item you want, so it's not <i>really</i> an added step. I just needed to have SOME cons, heh. ^^
I'm not really keen on adding more steps, but honestly I don't think this is such a terrible idea. I like the system used now, but I'm not going to fuss either way <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
The points system seems cool. Maybe we could have an option to purchase points as gifts for other users?
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Okay second comment, but still close <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
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First comment.<br />
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And if you ask me, the con's aren't too bad.<br />
Of course there hasta be a minimum point limit, and another step isn't that bad.<br />
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I'm all for it :3
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And if you ask me, the con's aren't too bad.<br />
Of course there hasta be a minimum point limit, and another step isn't that bad.<br />
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I'm all for it :3
I like this idea, myself. <img src="http://images.subeta.org/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />