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Posted by Keith
I like the tail and the wings it's just the paw, eyes and snout that creep me out a bit. In my opinion the head is a bit big. It's still sorta cute though <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
The old one looked more like a "ruff sketch" compaired to the new one. I personaly think the wings are a bit small though. But other than that the new one is alot better (in my opinion)
LOVE LOVE LOVE.
but.... Green eyes, plz? <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />
but.... Green eyes, plz? <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_sadface.gif" border="0" />
I'd like it more if the snout was bigger and the eyes were smaller. Maybe if it was more quad like too?
I love the wings though.
I love the wings though.
I love the eyes and wings, but I just don't really like the feet. Plus, I feel like it's back is too straight.
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I agree that the newer version looks too human-like. I like the more cartoon-ish look to the old one, but I also like the higher quality artwork of the newer version.
Jag, I hope you know that you're amazing. :3
I've been thinking a while, and I have some further critique. I'm probably going to repeat myself though. ^^"
I like the idea of the muzzle in Nat's edit.
<img src=http://i43.tinypic.com/v42a9t.jpg border="0">
I also like the legs(not the feet, the legs) in Silverpaws' edit.
<img src=http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5284/torreyredlinecq7.jpg border="0">
Aside from that, I'd like to suggest again that if you don't want to make the eyes green, perhaps you could make them a similar color to the wings. Maybe also, if others agree, you could put some kind of green in the eyes and wings as highlights for the purple?
And again, thank you for the time and effort you put into this. I appreciated, and I'm sure there are others who do as well. =)
I've been thinking a while, and I have some further critique. I'm probably going to repeat myself though. ^^"
I like the idea of the muzzle in Nat's edit.
<img src=http://i43.tinypic.com/v42a9t.jpg border="0">
I also like the legs(not the feet, the legs) in Silverpaws' edit.
<img src=http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5284/torreyredlinecq7.jpg border="0">
Aside from that, I'd like to suggest again that if you don't want to make the eyes green, perhaps you could make them a similar color to the wings. Maybe also, if others agree, you could put some kind of green in the eyes and wings as highlights for the purple?
And again, thank you for the time and effort you put into this. I appreciated, and I'm sure there are others who do as well. =)
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It's snout bothers me and the paws remind me of hands too much
Though I agree that the Torrey needed redone, I'm not sure I like it. Though mouth seems a little oddly shaped (in my opinion), and all of the fur on the paws reminds me of the Grinch. O---o
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awwws my comment was deleted when a new news thing had to be made 'cause of all the mean comments on the last one...anyway i wanted to say again how much i loves the new look of the Torrey...the wing color pick is perfect in my opinion and everything is well put together in size...i am in awe of the subeta artists talents on here...it is hard to do artwork which alot of people on here may not realize how much work it takes to do it all...keep up the good work, subeta artists and staff <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
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I'm a little confused here. I went to vote in the poll, and it told me that I had voted "old". But this was the first I've seen of the poll, and I... want to vote for the new one. :/
I like this revamp very much! The only thing I would prefer is to see some teeth. That would up the charisma factor for me--A beautiful sweet teethy smile. Great colorization on the wings!
Can we model him more like the Galactic Torrey? C: It's fabulous, and paired with Jag-art, I think Torreys would be absolutely irresistable. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" /> ( But I love Torreys anyway, and I'm so glad it's getting a revamp. )
I love it! My only complaint is the change of eye colour 'cause I love the green. Also it kind of looks like one of the wings is just kind of floating. Either way I love it. Especially the wing detail. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
I wasn't sure if it was still permitted to post visual suggestions (or edits, I suppose). But I couldn't think of the best way to verbally explain my suggestions. :/
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/kinabaki/suggestion.jpg
Mainly the (our) right foot was bothering me. I turned it a little more towards us.
I thickened the arms, made the eye smaller, thickened and lengthened the muzzle a little, made the nose a little bigger, and also thickened the neck. I believe I also fiddled with the wing a little.
:/ I'm sorry if this sort of critique isn't permitted. It was the best way I could think of to express what I wanted to get across.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/kinabaki/suggestion.jpg
Mainly the (our) right foot was bothering me. I turned it a little more towards us.
I thickened the arms, made the eye smaller, thickened and lengthened the muzzle a little, made the nose a little bigger, and also thickened the neck. I believe I also fiddled with the wing a little.
:/ I'm sorry if this sort of critique isn't permitted. It was the best way I could think of to express what I wanted to get across.
I prefer this version, although I agree with previous comments that green was a nicer color. Overall, though, I think it's cute. (:
Sorry if I may have offended anyone with my comments. I may have sounded pretty biting, but it doesn't do anyone any good if I sugar-coat my feelings.
Anyway, regarding the old torreys... assuming I can get my staff members right, Jag also did the reborn torrey, did she not? I think she should base the revamp fully off of that one. She's a fantastic artist, no doubt about that, but I have full faith in the fact that she can do so much better than this revamp. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Anyway, regarding the old torreys... assuming I can get my staff members right, Jag also did the reborn torrey, did she not? I think she should base the revamp fully off of that one. She's a fantastic artist, no doubt about that, but I have full faith in the fact that she can do so much better than this revamp. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
As I said before in my previous post, the proposed revamp is a nice piece of art, very nicely colored...but I'm not fond of it because it doesn't feel like a Torrey.
First of all, the muzzle is too thin and the nose too small. The neck could also use some thickening. Also, the upper arms and the hind legs are too thin as well and don't look quite right with the thickness of the paws. Also, I agree with those who say that the tummy is not substantial enough. It's very flat and lacks the fluffiness of the current version. And, yes, you've read this a bajillion times, but the eyes were much better green. All in all, character design-wise, this version is much more like a cute squirrel than the foxish creature that the Torrey currently is.
Now, to the pose. It's stiff and much too erect. The current Torrey's pose is sort of a relaxed slouch, a "C" shape, with the head cocked to the side ever so slightly. The proposed revamp's pose is ramrod straight and very stiff. Less relaxed and cool and more like...a cute squirrel begging for nuts. This change in posture also has an impact on how the Torrey looks, just as much as the anatomy and the coloration.
So, in conclusion, it's a very well done piece of art and as a stand-alone piece unattached to anything preexisting, it's fine and dandy, but in my eyes it just doesn't work as a Torrey revamp in my opinion. It would be nice if it leaned more toward the anatomy of the Galactic Torrey, which is very close to the current version but the quality is updated.
First of all, the muzzle is too thin and the nose too small. The neck could also use some thickening. Also, the upper arms and the hind legs are too thin as well and don't look quite right with the thickness of the paws. Also, I agree with those who say that the tummy is not substantial enough. It's very flat and lacks the fluffiness of the current version. And, yes, you've read this a bajillion times, but the eyes were much better green. All in all, character design-wise, this version is much more like a cute squirrel than the foxish creature that the Torrey currently is.
Now, to the pose. It's stiff and much too erect. The current Torrey's pose is sort of a relaxed slouch, a "C" shape, with the head cocked to the side ever so slightly. The proposed revamp's pose is ramrod straight and very stiff. Less relaxed and cool and more like...a cute squirrel begging for nuts. This change in posture also has an impact on how the Torrey looks, just as much as the anatomy and the coloration.
So, in conclusion, it's a very well done piece of art and as a stand-alone piece unattached to anything preexisting, it's fine and dandy, but in my eyes it just doesn't work as a Torrey revamp in my opinion. It would be nice if it leaned more toward the anatomy of the Galactic Torrey, which is very close to the current version but the quality is updated.
To me, it looks a little bit unproportional.
The Eyes and Tail are great but in my opinion the nose is too small and the shoulders aren't broad enough.
The Eyes and Tail are great but in my opinion the nose is too small and the shoulders aren't broad enough.
I love it! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" /> There's just one hing that bugs me...
The left side (from our view of it) seems a bit bigger than the right. It's supposed to be the other way around, isn't it? You know, so the left side looks further away?
Good work either way! I can't even do half as good as that.
The left side (from our view of it) seems a bit bigger than the right. It's supposed to be the other way around, isn't it? You know, so the left side looks further away?
Good work either way! I can't even do half as good as that.
I'd either make the muzzle slightly larger or the eyes slightly smaller. Am a fan of the wing's color change though. I'd give a more detailed concrit, but others have expressed my shared opinions in much more eloquent ways than I possibly could. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/smiley_xface.gif" border="0" />
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Great pet revamp<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
But i don't like the dark wings they must be like the old ones <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
But i don't like the dark wings they must be like the old ones <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
What's wrong with that pet? It would take me years to get that level of skill, Your an amazing artist!
I loveee the wings, and the big tail, and the overall new fluffiness of the entireeeee thing, it's adorable. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" /> The only things I have kind of a problem with are the feet--if they had more of a paw look, like a little more detail, they'd be perfect.
I like the new one...earlier I wasn't so sure but it's grown on me. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
I just think it should smile less.......the amount it's smiling looks a bit creepy...maybe a little smile? That would be more cute. ^.^
The artwork is very good though; in particular the eyes. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" /> I also like the wings. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
But yeah, for something constructive, it's defininately the smile thing goin' on. :p
I just think it should smile less.......the amount it's smiling looks a bit creepy...maybe a little smile? That would be more cute. ^.^
The artwork is very good though; in particular the eyes. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" /> I also like the wings. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
But yeah, for something constructive, it's defininately the smile thing goin' on. :p
The revamp is great, but the body seems way to small to support it's errrr...rather large head. I feel as though it needs more fluff in certain places, like it's stomach and legs. The blue eyes and wings are an awesome addition to the pet though. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
I love the detail that was lacking in the old one. The colours are very nice, especially the wings. I think the muzzle (and body too somewhat) is a little thin, though. But overall this is a huge improvement over the old, forgettable Torrey look. I hated the old eyes, and these ones are much more expressive and endearing. ^^
My suggestion: Make the tail a bit smaller and change the muzzle so it looks more like the Galactic's. But either way, I'd SO get this pet. XD Loving it more and more over time.
I love the new shading and such... I feel like there's something a little disproportionate about the arms though. IDK... maybe its just me?
What the hell? It cut out half of what I wrote!
Anyway, I was saying that I really like it, but, I wish it still had the green eyes. I really liked the green. ^^
Anyway, I was saying that I really like it, but, I wish it still had the green eyes. I really liked the green. ^^
hmm, and I completely forgot to say that I like the new version. Sorry about that!
I think its feet are just fine, too. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
I think its feet are just fine, too. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" />
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Yay, I've been waiting for this revamp. XD
The new eye/wing colors are really nice, and the face is simply adorable.
The new eye/wing colors are really nice, and the face is simply adorable.
I really like the wings. They look lovely.
I can't help but feel that the snout is too small. O:
I can't help but feel that the snout is too small. O:
Why would anyone say such horrible things?
I >like< this new one. Though, I wish it still had green eyes. (: I liked the green eyes. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
I really like the new wing-things too, neato!! (:
I >like< this new one. Though, I wish it still had green eyes. (: I liked the green eyes. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
I really like the new wing-things too, neato!! (:
I have to agree that the coloring and such is really awesome and up to date. =D
Jag did a nice job with that.
But I think that the upper arms should be... maybe thicker or furrier. I still like the way the mouth looks. XD
I'm not sure about the color change to the eyes.
And about the face, I know Jag drew it a while ago, but it could probably look better if it was like the Galactic, or the Reborn.
The Galactic Torrey is my favorite pet~ <3 I think that type of face would suit the Torrey for all time~
Jag did a nice job with that.
But I think that the upper arms should be... maybe thicker or furrier. I still like the way the mouth looks. XD
I'm not sure about the color change to the eyes.
And about the face, I know Jag drew it a while ago, but it could probably look better if it was like the Galactic, or the Reborn.
The Galactic Torrey is my favorite pet~ <3 I think that type of face would suit the Torrey for all time~
I see a lot of comments saying the snout is too small. To me, it looks longer than the current version. I would agree that a longer snout might be better, though. Eye color change doesn't bother me (might if I had one!)...but I think the wings should be lighter. I like the color that was used, but it doesn't really coordinate with the pet.
Very nice. The pose and face are especially well done.
One thing I should add though is the couple colour changes that were not really nessicary, such as the wing and eye colour changes.
Beyound that superficial note, it's lovely, great work. ^^
One thing I should add though is the couple colour changes that were not really nessicary, such as the wing and eye colour changes.
Beyound that superficial note, it's lovely, great work. ^^
Not completely feeling the love on this revamp. If the head is to stay the same size, then the body looks too skinny to support it; I appreciate the extra fluff the old torrey has. I agree also with those who say the feet and the muzzle need a bit of tweaking. The placement of the feet makes the new torrey look bowlegged to me; I'd prefer some digits, as well, to be consistent with the forepaws. And as for the muzzle, I'd widen it at the base, as people have said, and maybe even elongate it a bit more. I always thought of the torrey as more vulpine, less like a squirrel (which is how the face makes it seem now).
That said, there are things I do like about it. The new wing color is very nice--stands out but still fits the color scheme--and I like how the tail looks oh-so-fluffy. Wing placement is good, too ('cause I'm assuming it does connect at the shoulder and there's a bit of wing anatomy we can't see), and the bangs are much better. The pads of the right forepaw are a nice touch, as are the more defined digits, in my opinion. I do hope these things are kept when the revamp finally goes through.
Overall, it's not a bad revamp, per se. The attention to detail puts the artwork up to standard with the rest of the revamps, but I like the old torrey better overall, so that's how I voted. I really do like the dreamy expression the old one has... always imagined it looking up at someone as if to say, "I'm a good boy, ya?" even if it has gotten in trouble.
That said, there are things I do like about it. The new wing color is very nice--stands out but still fits the color scheme--and I like how the tail looks oh-so-fluffy. Wing placement is good, too ('cause I'm assuming it does connect at the shoulder and there's a bit of wing anatomy we can't see), and the bangs are much better. The pads of the right forepaw are a nice touch, as are the more defined digits, in my opinion. I do hope these things are kept when the revamp finally goes through.
Overall, it's not a bad revamp, per se. The attention to detail puts the artwork up to standard with the rest of the revamps, but I like the old torrey better overall, so that's how I voted. I really do like the dreamy expression the old one has... always imagined it looking up at someone as if to say, "I'm a good boy, ya?" even if it has gotten in trouble.
I'd give the feet/hands a little more defination, as well as make the neck a little thicker. Maybe change the wing color? It's not my favourite pet, but I think this version is better, just needs a little editing. ^^
All in all, looks very good, though~<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
All in all, looks very good, though~<img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_heart.gif" border="0" />
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I think the reason I don't like it is because of the eyes and the wings. I like the eyes green. And the wings have a dark purple and I don't like it. Other than that it is great. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
I'd rather have the old one right now than this new one, but that doesn't mean the old one is perfect or the new one isn't good. I think if the new one had a wider snout and if the wings were more like the old torrey I'd like it more. Other than what I mentioned, I think it's quite gorgeous. ;3 I was looking forward to the torrey revamp, now all we need is one for the charlie... wink wink nudge nudge
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I like the newer one because there are more details in the fur than the older one. The eyes and wings also have good details in them. I also think the wings should be a lighter color or the fur, to give nice contrast.
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Those eyes are Beautiful! The tail is gorgeous. One thing I must say, the paws look kinda blobbish. Just add a few lines to give a sense of more of a digit. not entirely like a finger but a bit more separated you know.
I think the only thing that bugs me with this are the feet. They remind me of "thing 1" and "thing 2". Other than that, it's so adorable <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_grin.gif" border="0" />
The muzzle does seem a bit short, but that doesn't really bother me. I liked the green eyes and cream colored wings better than the blue eyes and purplish wings. On the whole it looks cute, but I liked the lighter colors of the original more.
The art here is obviously technically better. The shading is lovely. I love the big fluffy tail and the cute ears. I like the feet and the wide furry hands, although they don't seem to fit Subeta's general style. This torrey is a lot more cartoony than most pets and a little too anthro for me; it looks more like a person in a fursuit than a pet, which creeps me out a little.
I really don't like the face; I find it too wide and the muzzle too small. The neck is also awfully skinny. Also, I always thought of the torrey as being more fox-like than squirrel-like -- the older one had a more canine muzzle -- and this one looks like a squirrel, which isn't really necessary when we have the popoko. Like others have said, the wings are cute but look like they're attached to the arms.
I think I'd like this a lot if it looked more like the reborn, which is definitely my favorite, or the galactic... and a little more like a fox.
I really don't like the face; I find it too wide and the muzzle too small. The neck is also awfully skinny. Also, I always thought of the torrey as being more fox-like than squirrel-like -- the older one had a more canine muzzle -- and this one looks like a squirrel, which isn't really necessary when we have the popoko. Like others have said, the wings are cute but look like they're attached to the arms.
I think I'd like this a lot if it looked more like the reborn, which is definitely my favorite, or the galactic... and a little more like a fox.
I preferred the old eye color, and this does look a little.. weird.. but it's certainly better than the old version. I love the detail.
Aside from that, I'd like to suggest again that if you don't want to make the eyes green, perhaps you could make them a similar color to the wings. Maybe also, if others agree, you could put some kind of green in the eyes and wings as highlights for the purple?
And again, thank you for the time and effort you put into this. I appreciated, and I'm sure there are others who do as well. =)
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I agree with that!.. the new version is soo cute but the feets look some strange.. and green eyes are cuute -