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Equality reigned supreme today in America, with the Supreme Court ruling that marriage is be legal no matter your sexuality. We\'ve got a new Free Gift to celebrate today!
Although this isn\'t the end of the fight for LGBT rights, but it\'s a great moment to celebrate.
Posted by Keith
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Thank you! We had a huge win today and I'm so happy to celebrate it. The war isn't over, but this battle victory is sweet!
I persnally don't like IRL pride because in recent years, it has been used as a tool of gatekeeping, especially towards bisexuals, asexuals and trans people in relationships with partners of a different gender, but I'm sure Subeta can do it right :D
Love
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- An asexual woman in a long-term relationship with a man
@Muerte
Oh gosh YESSSSS. How did that not even cross my mind? Yeesh. I would adore a pride event. That would be such fun, and I'm ALWAYSSSS game for fleshing out our NPCs.
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Cerredwyn
I'm with you on that :( It's always so surprising to see people being bigot-y on subeta. I'm glad so many people on this site are more open-minded. And getting to see actual characters on the site as part of the lgbt+ community is so wonderful. You'd think we woulda run the more unkind people away by now!
We'll just have to get EVEN MORE GAY
Oh gosh YESSSSS. How did that not even cross my mind? Yeesh. I would adore a pride event. That would be such fun, and I'm ALWAYSSSS game for fleshing out our NPCs.
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Cerredwyn I'm with you on that :( It's always so surprising to see people being bigot-y on subeta. I'm glad so many people on this site are more open-minded. And getting to see actual characters on the site as part of the lgbt+ community is so wonderful. You'd think we woulda run the more unkind people away by now!
We'll just have to get EVEN MORE GAY
Thank you for defending my comment @Frankenchokie (with YOUR comment to someone who countered it). I wrote you a note. Also, @Muerte I agree with you and @Inknote that it would be VERY cool to have a gay pride event in subeta that's a very real event. I think there are enough people here who would really like that, and for those of you who are making homophobic and anti gay comments (albeit they are thinly veiled) I just say that do you even realize that we OWE this site to one amazing gay man who started subeta??? I believe he left neopets because of the ban on "being" gay (saying the WORD gay, etc) anyway that's the story that I Heard when I was easily lured to this site since it had NO censorship and is VERY gay friendly!! :)
I realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I was raised with the idea that if you don't have something nice to say, say nothing, and I think that old fashioned value would make the world a better place. I don't see the reasoning behind the need to say anything that is even slightly "off" in terms of same-gender marriage. I will never understand the bias that some people have in which they don't seem to understand that people do NOT choose their sexual-affectional orientation. It JUST is. I don't believe that orientation is any different than any other trait, it's how one is born, MY opinion.
I realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I was raised with the idea that if you don't have something nice to say, say nothing, and I think that old fashioned value would make the world a better place. I don't see the reasoning behind the need to say anything that is even slightly "off" in terms of same-gender marriage. I will never understand the bias that some people have in which they don't seem to understand that people do NOT choose their sexual-affectional orientation. It JUST is. I don't believe that orientation is any different than any other trait, it's how one is born, MY opinion.
How dare you dishonor Britney Spears's 55 hour totally legit union with your long unions that have been going on for years, where you truly love each other and are commited to be with the other, no matter what.
stares unblinkingly at people throwing a piss baby fit
rubs my gay little hands over everything you love and enjoy
:3c
rubs my gay little hands over everything you love and enjoy
:3c
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Can we have this??? And can we pretty please have an aromantic character too oh goodness 0@Muerte
Oh my, I hope the site goes full on gay. A queer themed month. Rainbows everywhere. NPC's of all kind come out as some form of queer. Bi, pan, trans* characters. All of it.
With pretty cake.
thankfully there are very few people in the comments here against it!
glad that people I love can finally fully enjoy the benefits of being partners in life
glad that people I love can finally fully enjoy the benefits of being partners in life
@Kittyclaws911 When a religion bases their entire belief system on your lifestyle being against their God and how you're going to be damned to eternity in Hell unless you repent your evil ways, I consider that to be hate.
" Just because someone doesn't believe or support the same thing as you doesn't mean they hate you or view you as lower than themselves. "
You might want to reread that. If someone doesn't believe in you having the right to love someone because your genitalia match and doesn't support you having basic human rights that they get without a second thought, you pretty much are seen as lower than themselves. If they didn't view you as lower than them, they wouldn't throw a fit over you having the same rights they do. They may not hate you but they definitely see themselves as better than you.
" Just because someone doesn't believe or support the same thing as you doesn't mean they hate you or view you as lower than themselves. "
You might want to reread that. If someone doesn't believe in you having the right to love someone because your genitalia match and doesn't support you having basic human rights that they get without a second thought, you pretty much are seen as lower than themselves. If they didn't view you as lower than them, they wouldn't throw a fit over you having the same rights they do. They may not hate you but they definitely see themselves as better than you.
America, meet 21st century. 21st century, meet America. We hope you enjoy your time together.
@Suzaku
Sorry about the previous post. I clicked "ADD COMMENT" too soon. (slow computer problems)
That's good to hear. I would just hate if the discrimination wasn't solved but instead merely redirected.
"And, really, would you want a holier-than-thou jerk who hates you based on your choice of life partner officiating your wedding? I don't think so."
Um, not to start conflict, but that's pretty harsh don't you think? Just because someone doesn't believe or support the same thing as you doesn't mean they hate you or view you as lower than themselves. (Maybe you didn't mean it that way. It's just how your wording sounded.)
"(Also, of course, you can get married in a church but you need to be in a court house for the license so we can just skip the church like non-Christians/Atheists/people who don't want a large wedding and just do that)."
Yeah, that's true.
Sorry about the previous post. I clicked "ADD COMMENT" too soon. (slow computer problems)
- Oh, okay. That makes sense.
- "Under the 1st Amendment, however, no church that does not support gay marriage can be forced to marry someone who is gay"
That's good to hear. I would just hate if the discrimination wasn't solved but instead merely redirected.
"And, really, would you want a holier-than-thou jerk who hates you based on your choice of life partner officiating your wedding? I don't think so."
Um, not to start conflict, but that's pretty harsh don't you think? Just because someone doesn't believe or support the same thing as you doesn't mean they hate you or view you as lower than themselves. (Maybe you didn't mean it that way. It's just how your wording sounded.)
"(Also, of course, you can get married in a church but you need to be in a court house for the license so we can just skip the church like non-Christians/Atheists/people who don't want a large wedding and just do that)."
Yeah, that's true.
-refrains from responding to some people-
it's a whole lot easier to just ignore certain things.
again a big Woohoo to the ruling!
it's a whole lot easier to just ignore certain things.
again a big Woohoo to the ruling!
- Oh, okay. That makes sense.
- "Under the 1st Amendment, however, no church that does not support gay marriage can be forced to marry someone who is gay"
That's good to hear. I would just hate if the discrimination wasn't solved but instead merely redirected.
"And, really, would you want a holier-than-thou jerk who hates you based on your choice of life partner officiating your wedding? I don't think so."
Um, not to start conflict, but that's pretty harsh don't you think? Just because someone doesn't believe or support the same thing as you doesn't mean they hate you or view you as lower than themselves. (Maybe you didn't mean it that way. It's just how your wording sounded.)
They're going to kick their heels and cry oppression, but that's as far as that one is going to go. (Also, of course, you can get married in a church but you need to be in a court house for the license so we can just skip the church like non-Christians/Atheists/people who don't want a large wedding and just do that).
@Kittyclaws911
The Supreme Court did not make a law, they decided between already-existing interpretations . Two different suits had been brought before other courts, and two conflicting decisions were made by two different judges on different appeals. The Supreme Court decided which decision was held up as precedent, using the Constitution as a basis of ruling. This led to the invocation of equal protection under already-established arguments and laws.
The Supreme Court did not make a law, they decided between already-existing interpretations . Two different suits had been brought before other courts, and two conflicting decisions were made by two different judges on different appeals. The Supreme Court decided which decision was held up as precedent, using the Constitution as a basis of ruling. This led to the invocation of equal protection under already-established arguments and laws.
@Suzaku 06/26/15 10:16 pm
At least we get an item out of this travesty
The travesty is that you're playing on a pet site started and ran by a gay man who you apparently don't think deserves the ability to settle down with someone he loves (should he choose to).
At least we get an item out of this travesty
The travesty is that you're playing on a pet site started and ran by a gay man who you apparently don't think deserves the ability to settle down with someone he loves (should he choose to).
@Kittyclaws911 06/26/15 10:50 pm
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I have a few questions. Hopefully, someone from the comments will be nice enough to answer them for me. :blush:
You're right, they cannot make laws. Thankfully, the anti-LGBT group already had a bunch of discriminatory laws made up that they could rule as unconstitutional, however. Now that those laws are off the books, it's legal.
Not all Christian churches support same sex marriage, this is true. There are, however, a lot who do. Under the 1st Amendment, however, no church that does not support gay marriage can be forced to marry someone who is gay. And, really, would you want a holier-than-thou jerk who hates you based on your choice of life partner officiating your wedding? I don't think so. They're going to kick their heels and cry oppression, but that's as far as that one is going to go. (Also, of course, you can get married in a church but you need to be in a court house for the license so we can just skip the church like non-Christians/Atheists/people who don't want a large wedding and just do that).
I left off your last question because I think the second one pretty much answered it. :)
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I have a few questions. Hopefully, someone from the comments will be nice enough to answer them for me. :blush:
- The Supreme Court does not have he ability to make laws. Their job is to interpret them. Congress is the one who make laws. (and the president enforces the laws) So with that being said, how was the Supreme Court able to rule gay marriage be legal?
You're right, they cannot make laws. Thankfully, the anti-LGBT group already had a bunch of discriminatory laws made up that they could rule as unconstitutional, however. Now that those laws are off the books, it's legal.
- I'm concerned that one act against discrimination will actually cause discrimination against another group. Weddings generally take place in a church, and many Christians don't support homosexuality due to their religious beliefs. Will this ruling force churches to marry a gay couple even if it goes against their beliefs? (I know certain churches don't care) If so, wouldn't that be discrimination against Christians and their churches? (I guess that one was two questions)
Not all Christian churches support same sex marriage, this is true. There are, however, a lot who do. Under the 1st Amendment, however, no church that does not support gay marriage can be forced to marry someone who is gay. And, really, would you want a holier-than-thou jerk who hates you based on your choice of life partner officiating your wedding? I don't think so. They're going to kick their heels and cry oppression, but that's as far as that one is going to go. (Also, of course, you can get married in a church but you need to be in a court house for the license so we can just skip the church like non-Christians/Atheists/people who don't want a large wedding and just do that).
I left off your last question because I think the second one pretty much answered it. :)
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I have a few questions. Hopefully, someone from the comments will be nice enough to answer them for me. :)
~ These are honest questions. Please no rude responses. Thank you. :)
- The Supreme Court does not have he ability to make laws. Their job is to interpret them. Congress is the one who make laws. (and the president enforces the laws) So with that being said, how was the Supreme Court able to rule gay marriage be legal?
- I'm concerned that one act against discrimination will actually cause discrimination against another group. Weddings generally take place in a church, and many Christians don't support homosexuality due to their religious beliefs. Will this ruling force churches to marry a gay couple even if it goes against their beliefs? (I know certain churches don't care) If so, wouldn't that be discrimination against Christians and their churches? (I guess that one was two questions)
- If number two takes place, how exactly would that work according to the 'separation of church and state'?
~ These are honest questions. Please no rude responses. Thank you. :)
Suzaku 06/26/15 10:16 pm
At least we get an item out of this travesty
You know, if you don't support others having basic rights then maybe you shouldn't say anything about it..
At least we get an item out of this travesty
You know, if you don't support others having basic rights then maybe you shouldn't say anything about it..
Ah, the one joy of reading other people's comments: learning first-hand whose comments not to bother with reading anymore.
Thanks for the free item, staff! #LoveWins
Thanks for the free item, staff! #LoveWins
Now that Mexico and the US have changed their laws, all of North American now supports gay marriage. CONGRATS ON BEING THE BIGGEST GAYEST LANDMASS, NORTHAMERICA! :D
FINALLY! Finally we did it! It was the best news to wake up to this morning and I have been off and on in tears ever since learning about it @ 9:30AM here in Wisconsin. FINALLY.
Thank you for the beautiful free gift, straight to my gallery it goes!
Thank you for the beautiful free gift, straight to my gallery it goes!
I really love how this site commemorates special events or marks the passing of special people with items that all users can get. I really appreciate it. Today's item made me smile and I'm grateful for this nice cake! :)
Beautiful.
Perhaps those who find this the place to air their political opinions should actually have a piece of cake and think about love.
Perhaps those who find this the place to air their political opinions should actually have a piece of cake and think about love.
congratulations everyone! this is incredible news.
but i have to say....
bluemoonlightgirl maybe once your country takes out its drones from the middle east, and stop killing innocent civilians for the sake of imperialism, maybe then you will have the place to say that.
but i have to say....
bluemoonlightgirl maybe once your country takes out its drones from the middle east, and stop killing innocent civilians for the sake of imperialism, maybe then you will have the place to say that.
Hell yeah! It's about time is the understatement of the year. So glad we've finally joined other progressive nations who already have equal marriage rights for the LGBT community. Marriage for all who want it, and despite what some people say it's effing awesome if you find the right person. ;)
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