Cash Shop: Archive Shelf

Blue Flower Headdress
Corrupted Arcrystal
Spiral Galaxy Projection


The Hustler is gone. No more pop-up at the top of the page trying to sell you something before he wanders off.

In his place is the Archive shelf. Every Monday at midnight, Subeta time, a new shelf goes up with 16 items that used to be in the Cash Shop. Each item has 50 copies, and you can buy each one once a week. You pay in Cash Shop Credits, and the price is 15% less than the item used to cost.

The shelf stays the same all week, so you can take your time with it. The next one goes up Monday, October 26.

There's a poll on the shelf page. Tell us what you'd want to see on it, and what you think of the change!

Another cash shop update: The Chance machines are closed and the items in them have been retired. They'll show up on the shelf, and in the future you'll be able to purchase some of them directly.
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Posted by Keith

Keliora
I submitted my poll before checking something, so one more comment from me!

I think it would be very helpful for the Archive Shelf to show on shop search as a location when the items are in stock.
Laurey
I noticed all of these items in the shelf have r101 rarity for retired items, but in the past at least I thought Cash Shop items always kept the Cash Shop rarity even if they were no longer available in the shop directly. Maybe there could be a new rarity ID for retired Cash Shop items specifically or something?
Keith STAFF
So Many Tests
Keith STAFF
@Ryuu In 99% of cases they'll have an icon and look more like:


In this case, there is already a cash shop test going on with this at the top level and so it was confusing to have multiple of that icon on the page, so this test (which isn't really a test anymore -- I probably won't even run the feedback poll for that long) was made a little smaller.
Ryuu
For people who may need, the Poll is the button at the top of the page. It says: " Could you tell how the Archive Shelf works from the page?" When you click, it pops up a few questions & there's a place for (optional) written feedback too.
Also, here's a screenshot of the button, if that may help:


To note, it might make more sense for these feedback buttons to be labeled Feedback or Survey or Poll or... some other word that people can look out for? Or maybe made a color that stands out from the page better? Or perhaps utilize a specific image or icon to help draw attention to it each time we can add feedback (like a little speech bubble item?)? If I were unaware of what the buttons normally look like on these pages? That text & button just blends in with the rest of the page. It looks the same as information being displayed, like the How It Works block of text at the bottom of the screen (but I use the Masquerade layout, so maybe that makes it more blend-y? ha.).
hannahharmin
So...Hustler would let me buy up to 3 of the same item in quick succession. Most of the time I only need one copy of an item but when the item has more than one use I tend to buy a copy for each use.

On a plus, it's a good way to get us to spend our CSC that we'll be getting daily from quests, once that is active.
taffyann
Nevermind.. the info thats on the bottom of the page should be on the top. I never get to the bottom of pages. It may just be me but I think all info should be quick and easy, not under everything.
taffyann
If you can buy up to 50, why can I only buy one of the item I want two of? Its wear and food.
shylarah
The news post says 25% off (a quarter), while the items themselves are only 15% off. I think this is a minor error though. And I'm rather liking this change, although making it time-dependent (instead of seemingly random) is giving certain people a minor advantage. STill! I'm alll in favor of this!
Magic
Well, just trying to scroll the page to even look at it caused me to accidentally buy an item (didnt even get a confirmation pop up), so my CSC was wasted on an item I would never have bought, so, uh, not going great so far unfortunately ;-;
hannahharmin
I assure you @BlueRiver that you are not blind. I could't find the survey button either.
Angelica
I'll really, really, really miss The Hustler :(
Chinchilla
I can't believe they arrested the Hustler
Jokes aside, I can't wait to to take advantage of this!
lull
I'm normally quite patient on subeta but when there is nothing I want waiting a week for the items to change feels like so long :(
BlueRiver
I can't find the poll. Am I just blind?
Sirensong
The poll didn't show up, so I will put my thoughts here. I found the old banner at the top annoying and distracting. Being able to browse at my leisure is awesome. I also think it would be lovely to have retired, impossible-to-get items that weren't originally cash shop items here. Someone mentioned old SubQ items, or my personal dream items, the Street Team plushies so I could finally finish that collection.
Sheap
Aw men, I'm gonna miss the guy.
Para
Would have been an insane first pull for me if the glasses in there were the red ones lmao

I like this change, more options are always welcome
kytten
Thank you thank you THANK you for no more pop ups! Yay! i hope everything settles in nicely for everyone and everyone gets what they want and is happy with it! <3 <3
hannahharmin
Too bad he's not dead. It could have made a good murder mystery for Morostide. Still, glad to see he's alive and running away with my sP still. lol
alienXing
Immediately takes the hustler's place hustling lol
alienXing
So uhh, not to be pedantic like this but is it supposed to be minus a quarter? Like 25% off, or 15% off?
Balloon
Quote:
omg he is still hustling in pina park he is not dead!!!
well now I'M dying over that comment 😂
StarShadow
Where is the poll?
LizardLady
I liked the hustler because of the discount, but I get it. Thank you for continuing to give so much love and updates to the site all these years later <3
Roan
I'm glad he'll still be my go-to for self-stickifying 💚
fool
I always appreciate limiting "FOMO" -- the totals on the old hustler definitely made me impulse purchase from time to time.

One question I have is occasionally the Hustler would drop something with a REALLY good discount -- Will those still pop up in this new archive too? From the looks of it everything is seems to be a specific % off based on their original price.
Lace
@Keith
I did notice that while I had an item that was wishlisted on the news page didn't show as wishlisted on the new Archive shelf. Would it be possible to make that visible so I know if I'm missing an item from there?
Cvijet
I can't believe how quickly these updates are coming. Thank you so much!
Keith STAFF
@RNA We don't have any control over the CSC <> user conversion rate, and have really tried to not touch it. It pulls from retired items in the cash shop and provides a discount based on what price they were offered in the cash shop. There will sometimes be items on the shelf that are worth less than the CSC if you bought it right then, but a lot of people are sitting on a lot of CSC and that could still be an opportunity for them to spend it.
Lea
oh awesome, i love this update (esp as someone who never paid attention to the hustler pop-ups, they were just something my eyes would skip right over aha...) i don't mind paying a little more csc but i also never looked for deals and i can afford to buy csc when i need it, so. prob an outlier here :P
i feel like there are a fair amount of cash shop items that i want that i can only ever get during sales, because they're usually retired and unavailable outside those sales. and i always feel kind of bad because i know the site needs money, but half the things i want only seem to be available when they're like.. dirt cheap lol. so i like this and i'm gonna have to remember to keep an eye on what's available!!

is it possible to make it so that there's an indication if one of these items is on your wishlist? i realized that one of them is on my wishlist after doing an account search, and adding certain collection boxes to my wishlist is how i keep track of what ones i need to buy
Keith STAFF
😅 also it's being updated to 15% off not added, discounts coming back!
RNA
I noticed that at least one of the items costs significantly less in user shops taking into account the SP to CSC conversion rate.
Is there a way to make sure only items that cost more in the user shops than in CSC are listed?

And will retired Subeautique items make their way onto the shelf, or will there be another way to get them? Some of them are selling for over 40 million SP right now.
DruidHeart
@Aline Putting it that way makes a lot of sense and I feel silly for not thinking of it 😅 Of course it only affects the things that use real currency to obtain (for the most part). Everything else takes in-game currency, and here it actually is easy to be a millionaire through hard work lots of button pressing.
Witch
nvm, i get it now lol!
StarShadow
This is nice, no more Hustler bugging me to buy something. But I couldn't find a poll on the shelf page.
Keith STAFF
omg he is still hustling in pina park he is not dead!!! he is just not making popups every 3 hours
Witch
wait, wasn't there just an achievement/reaction for hustler and being swindled by him? rip???
Aline
@DruidHeart I think it only affects CSC gambling due to regulations in several countries that are banning gacha games or making them 18+ due to the use of real-life currency for gambling. Subeta is a PG-13 site and Keith most definitely wants it to stay that way.
DruidHeart
The best thing about the Hustler was getting those items at a discount, but it's really hard to be truly miffed about it when CSC is being paid out in various ways like it hasn't in the past.

As for the chance machines and gambling, is that same thing going to affect any of the chance-style games like slots or vending?
jeanstarwind
I understand the thought process behind the change, and I get why there is a price increase on something retired. It does make sense. But I didn't mind the alerts and was always apt to buy something I liked from the Hustler because you got a deal (at least when he wasn't trying to swindle you lol). I doubt I'll look much at this now that it costs more, but that's just me.
pia
the CS Hustler getting got on a random Thursday for his misdeeds... goodbye goodbye, your banner was brighter than the whole sky 🎶
Damon
I can't find the poll
NOVOCAINE
I like this! Question: it doesn't show if the items are on my wl (eg spiral galaxy projection shows on the news post but not on the archive page) is that intentional?
colorWIRED
Did he get assassinated?
Battle
I won't be using this because the hustler actually cut a deal. But outside of the price increase, it's a cool system. I'll just wait for BF sale to buy these sorts of items.
Balloon
"The Hustler is gone" sounded awfully ominous! I'm glad he seems to be alive and well in Pina Park still XD These are some interesting changes!
Shadow
Wow love the consolidation. Makes it much easier. I never had much luck with the chance machines, so this is a bonus for me as well. Good improvement all around.
~S
Keith STAFF
On the chance machines: We were reached out to about legal changes in non-US countries on gambling and loot boxes, and took them down until I have a chance to give the proper amount of a look at them!

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