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I personally loved the older one :/ Not a big fan of this one besides the higher quality.
I can't draw a lick anymore so kudos to the artist. However I do strongly prefer the old version. I had a Mini donkey when I was a kid who looked a lot like this. Cute tho^^
Too bad people are refering to the old revamped version rather than the current Hikei. The old revamped version is out of discussion so why compare that revamp to the new one? =/
It's adorable, but I voted for the old one. The neck and face of the new one just didn't work for me. I was also turned off a it by the tail, which seems too small compared to the old one.
It's great, gorgeous even, but I just preferred the old one more.
It's great, gorgeous even, but I just preferred the old one more.
I like the pose and the ears and eyes, but I have to admit that I dislike anything else.
The tail is too short and looks like it was slimy, the snout looks very thin, the mane is just weird (and too short) and the bodyshading...hm.
The tail is too short and looks like it was slimy, the snout looks very thin, the mane is just weird (and too short) and the bodyshading...hm.
The new Hikei looks kind of piggish to me.... I can't really explain why, maybe the fat neck and small head thing it has going. :/
haha Ambition.. I gave the Hikei the proper amount of joints that an equine species should have in its forelegs.
Keep your critiques coming, guys. I'm taking all of your comments into consideration so if it a voice of many things will be changed. I'm already tweaking!
Thanks for the comments so far (the good and not so good. haha) and your patience with the Hikei.
Keep your critiques coming, guys. I'm taking all of your comments into consideration so if it a voice of many things will be changed. I'm already tweaking!
Thanks for the comments so far (the good and not so good. haha) and your patience with the Hikei.
Constructively, I think:
Tail too small
Head too small
No claws on back feet
mane too bristley
Please, never change my angel hikei!
Tail too small
Head too small
No claws on back feet
mane too bristley
Please, never change my angel hikei!
A donkey! I was wondering what it looks like, and yes, it looks like a donkey. Not like a Hikei.
I looked at it again and read a few users complaints in conclusion:
the front is just too bumpy. the stripes and coloration and thickness of the body are fine. Aesthetically pleasing.
It's the bumps on the front legs/chest, and the neck.
the front is just too bumpy. the stripes and coloration and thickness of the body are fine. Aesthetically pleasing.
It's the bumps on the front legs/chest, and the neck.
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I'm not sure anyone's mentioned this, but right where the neck meets up with the body, there should be a small "indentation". Erm.. you know, when two muscles meet? I think it looks a bit too smooth adding tot he "too chubby" or the " legs too thin" look everyone keeps talking about.
coloring suggestion: make it whiter. IMHO, I think the current version looks better because it's whiter, it also looks cleaner.
I think this Hikei looks cute and everything. I like the tail and the face (can you say awww?).
coloring suggestion: make it whiter. IMHO, I think the current version looks better because it's whiter, it also looks cleaner.
I think this Hikei looks cute and everything. I like the tail and the face (can you say awww?).
I'm sure someone has already mentioned the things that bother me about this revamp. I don't want to offend the artists, you guys do an amazing job, but in this case I have to vote old.
A lot of people have answered already, so I'll just do a little list thingy to give some comments. :3
*I'd say to lengthen the back, it looks really scrunched at the moment.
*The knee on the back right leg seems to be a bit low, and makes the leg look chunky and doesn't give the ankle too much definition.
*The tails are a little cluttered together, it's hard to make out the glowing balls on/in them. Maybe have them splay out more horizontally, it'll help give more depth to the pet just by putting in some perspective work on the tails.
Otherwise it's a nice revamp, I really like both the front legs and hooves, and the head is also very well done.
*I'd say to lengthen the back, it looks really scrunched at the moment.
*The knee on the back right leg seems to be a bit low, and makes the leg look chunky and doesn't give the ankle too much definition.
*The tails are a little cluttered together, it's hard to make out the glowing balls on/in them. Maybe have them splay out more horizontally, it'll help give more depth to the pet just by putting in some perspective work on the tails.
Otherwise it's a nice revamp, I really like both the front legs and hooves, and the head is also very well done.
there is something wrong with the head/neck area.
the tail and back legs are PERFECT!!!! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
the front legs are too bumpy, how many joints does this animal have?!
I love the eyes.
the new hair is great too!
As i stated previously, there is just something funny looking about the neck area.
the tail and back legs are PERFECT!!!! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
the front legs are too bumpy, how many joints does this animal have?!
I love the eyes.
the new hair is great too!
As i stated previously, there is just something funny looking about the neck area.
There is something odd about the revamp I'm not sure what it is though, But I do like the new revamp. =3
I voted old. This just looks very 'off' to me. The face looks much too ...young. I can't explain it, but it's very awkward looking. The mane is way too short and choppy. As much as I lovvve a chubby hikei, this one is so square and uncomfortable looking. And goodness, where did his stripes go? I -MUCH- prefer the longer, thicker stripes of the old hikei. ... And tail, for that matter. Eep, and why is he so grey? <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_sad.gif" border="0" />
I really do appreciate the numerous attempts at a revamp that the hikei has had, but none of them so far have been able to capture the personality of the old hikei. This one still isn't doing anything for me. ... I do like the eyes, though. =/
I really do appreciate the numerous attempts at a revamp that the hikei has had, but none of them so far have been able to capture the personality of the old hikei. This one still isn't doing anything for me. ... I do like the eyes, though. =/
I actually think the old version looks rather Chibi compared to this one <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" /> I have a soft spot for the old one because it's so adorable, but I think this one looks more current... it's a good start <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
My suggestions: bigger/longer stripes would make the body look less dense and more proportioned... a simple fix there would go a long way. Also as others have stated, lengthening the tail. It looks stumpy right now <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" /> Maybe make the mane a bit longer as well to give it that classic look.
I think it's cute, but it still needs some tweaking. Kudos to the artist for coming up with this though... it's almost perfect, imo.
My suggestions: bigger/longer stripes would make the body look less dense and more proportioned... a simple fix there would go a long way. Also as others have stated, lengthening the tail. It looks stumpy right now <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" /> Maybe make the mane a bit longer as well to give it that classic look.
I think it's cute, but it still needs some tweaking. Kudos to the artist for coming up with this though... it's almost perfect, imo.
I still love it. I'd get one.
Although the gray tint and back legs seem a little off to me still, it's grown on me.
A lot of you guys are incredibly rude when wording your criticism. I'm not saying all of you, but quite a few aren't even being constructive. Instead, you're just being plain rude about it. =/
Although the gray tint and back legs seem a little off to me still, it's grown on me.
A lot of you guys are incredibly rude when wording your criticism. I'm not saying all of you, but quite a few aren't even being constructive. Instead, you're just being plain rude about it. =/
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hey, its pretty cute! i like the old one too, so this one should be the chibi hikei! it would be perfect, dontcha agree? props to the artist! X3
I'm liking the new one, maybe the tail needs to have more 'oomph' <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
I think this revamp is a very nice piece and a good start, but it could use some refinement. First of all, the thin legs look awkward when paired with the thick body, like they shouldn't be able to hold the weight that well, so the legs could stand to be thickened or the body sleekened (or a little bit of both) so that the proportions don't feel so off balance. Second of all, the face is fine, but the mane looks too rough and should be made smoother, more like the older version, and the ears should be made just a tad fuller. I know that horses in general (as in everything in the equine family) don't have very full ears, but the Hikei currently has more rounded out ears than an average horse and so the revamp could stand to have just a little bit more fullness in that area.
All around, I think it's nice, but it could use just a little bit of tweaking in my opinion before it's perfect.
All around, I think it's nice, but it could use just a little bit of tweaking in my opinion before it's perfect.
It makes me think of a hobbit for some reason. >.>
It's an improvement in art quality over the old one, and I prefer it over Revamp Attempt 1, but something about it seems kind of awkward. I agree with others that the mane would be nice longer. The legs also looks particularly stumpy, which is in keeping with the pet, but in this version something's bothering me; maybe the front legs need to be slightly longer to match the back ones? Or perhaps what another user mentioned about the knobbyness? The legs on the DM and angelic hikeis I think represent a nice ideal. (Also, on a ridiculously minor note, I personally preferred the back toes white.)
Actually, more than anything, I think the eyes need to be tweaked somewhat, because my first reaction was that it was creepily wide-eyed. Wide eyes are right for the chibi (unlike other users, I think the artist has the head shape/proportions exactly right), but the eyes on the original have a more aloof look to them; less YAYHAPPY, you know?
Meh, I don't intend to own a hikei, and it's a well-drawn revamp; I just think it's not quite right for the hikei as it currently exists.
It's an improvement in art quality over the old one, and I prefer it over Revamp Attempt 1, but something about it seems kind of awkward. I agree with others that the mane would be nice longer. The legs also looks particularly stumpy, which is in keeping with the pet, but in this version something's bothering me; maybe the front legs need to be slightly longer to match the back ones? Or perhaps what another user mentioned about the knobbyness? The legs on the DM and angelic hikeis I think represent a nice ideal. (Also, on a ridiculously minor note, I personally preferred the back toes white.)
Actually, more than anything, I think the eyes need to be tweaked somewhat, because my first reaction was that it was creepily wide-eyed. Wide eyes are right for the chibi (unlike other users, I think the artist has the head shape/proportions exactly right), but the eyes on the original have a more aloof look to them; less YAYHAPPY, you know?
Meh, I don't intend to own a hikei, and it's a well-drawn revamp; I just think it's not quite right for the hikei as it currently exists.
I don't see this sketchyness people are talking about? Hm.
I think with some tweaks this one would be cute. For one the mane, just as everyone else had said, and something about the forehead throws me of. Maybe if the hair line was brought down a little it wouldn't look so.. large? Or maybe that's just because the mane seems so short.
Also, I think the right back leg (It's right) seems.. short. Personally I think it would look better if the knee was brought up more so the lower leg seems longer C:
Other then that, it looks very cute, hopefully that's the angle you were looking for.
I think with some tweaks this one would be cute. For one the mane, just as everyone else had said, and something about the forehead throws me of. Maybe if the hair line was brought down a little it wouldn't look so.. large? Or maybe that's just because the mane seems so short.
Also, I think the right back leg (It's right) seems.. short. Personally I think it would look better if the knee was brought up more so the lower leg seems longer C:
Other then that, it looks very cute, hopefully that's the angle you were looking for.
Okay, being the Hikei queen I am, I have to mention- oh my god. No, I don't like it. The pose is noce, but the head and the face, and the way its drawn, so sketchy and scirbbly- no. I hope they don't touch the special colours :/
ChillyKitten: "I totally agree with Sketchess. I hardly remember a good comment regarding the old "new" revamp image. About 85% was negativity. And now apparently it's an awesome image that shouldn't be replaced. Maybe you guys should have made up your minds before the artist spent more of their time creating a brand new image for you all. x_x"
Well, no one says that if the "old new" revamp wasn't satisfactory, things can only get better. Besides, this one is done by another artist. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /> So the improvement can be done without thinking that we're killing the artist after a second try... I guess. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
And a bit of improvement is what almost every revamp needs to please the species owners and fans...
Well, no one says that if the "old new" revamp wasn't satisfactory, things can only get better. Besides, this one is done by another artist. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_wink.gif" border="0" /> So the improvement can be done without thinking that we're killing the artist after a second try... I guess. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_raspberry.gif" border="0" />
And a bit of improvement is what almost every revamp needs to please the species owners and fans...
I voted old. It's not bad, but just not what I would picture a hikei to look like.
I think the position of the back legs would make more sense if the front legs were closer together, like the original hikei. It would also give it a cuter look, I believe.
Maybe also make the hair more wavey, rather than spikey?
I think the position of the back legs would make more sense if the front legs were closer together, like the original hikei. It would also give it a cuter look, I believe.
Maybe also make the hair more wavey, rather than spikey?
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Eh I voted for the old one. The revamp just looks kinda awkward, like it was sketched together rather hastily.
I am wondering why, if the images are the property of subeta, the previous Hikei revamp can't be used...? But, in any case, something close to what the other one looked like would be nice. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
I voted for the old one because there would need to be some major changes on the revamp to make it look better in my opinion.
For example the mane should be a little longer and the paws should be more distinct.
For example the mane should be a little longer and the paws should be more distinct.
I rather like this revamp and prefer it over the first revamp version. <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />
Only thing that I'd like to get a little tweak would be the mane (it looks a little bit too short) and the tails but else I'm really happy with the new revamp! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
Only thing that I'd like to get a little tweak would be the mane (it looks a little bit too short) and the tails but else I'm really happy with the new revamp! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_happy.gif" border="0" />
I totally agree with Sketchess. I hardly remember a good comment regarding the old "new" revamp image. About 85% was negativity. And now apparently it's an awesome image that shouldn't be replaced. Maybe you guys should have made up your minds before the artist spent more of their time creating a brand new image for you all. x_x
I quite like this revamp, I like that it looks like more believable in its body structure and I can imagine its movement better.
The only thing I am not exactly fond of is the Mane, it looks to choppy and short. I loved the stylized way it had before. It was kinda like a trojan horse in old greek pictures.
Also I think the back is a bit too short, but I might be mistaken.
But in total I am quite happy with it. Especially the hooves and the ears.
Who is responsible for this revamp? Rah?
The only thing I am not exactly fond of is the Mane, it looks to choppy and short. I loved the stylized way it had before. It was kinda like a trojan horse in old greek pictures.
Also I think the back is a bit too short, but I might be mistaken.
But in total I am quite happy with it. Especially the hooves and the ears.
Who is responsible for this revamp? Rah?
I'll admit I've never been much for the hikeis anyway, and I apologize in advance to whichever artist worked on this, because it just doesn't look right. It looks incredibly flat - the shading is far too light in relation to the lining, which looks too bold and thick without proper shadows to blend to it.
I like the fact that the back paws now have a bit of blue on them.
But I think this would suit the Chibi much more, it looks almost too young compared to the old Hikei.
Maybe if the mane weren't as short of its nose was longer?
Overall I like it though 8D good job!
But I think this would suit the Chibi much more, it looks almost too young compared to the old Hikei.
Maybe if the mane weren't as short of its nose was longer?
Overall I like it though 8D good job!
The old one is so much cuter. What happened to the claws on the back hooves/feet? Please vote everyone. I have a hard time believing the new one is preferred by so many.
I like the body but not the new colouring of the toes and the tail seems a bit small.
It's totally selfish but I really hope the chibi version never changes and it is one of my favourite pets clings to Brue
It's totally selfish but I really hope the chibi version never changes and it is one of my favourite pets clings to Brue
...I find it funny that a lot of people are saying that they liked the "older new one" now. When it was first introduced and polled, it got shot down and torn apart, too. It's head was too big, the pose wasn't dynamic enough, it looked too much like the "chibi" version...
So the design went back to the drawing board, was given a better-proportioned body and a more energetic pose...and now people want the old one back. T_T Major props to the artist for being far more patient and accommodating than I could ever be.
...I wonder what the results would be like if all three proposed revamps were polled at once?
So the design went back to the drawing board, was given a better-proportioned body and a more energetic pose...and now people want the old one back. T_T Major props to the artist for being far more patient and accommodating than I could ever be.
...I wonder what the results would be like if all three proposed revamps were polled at once?
I prefer the old one. What I don't like about this revamp is:
-Head is much too small.
-Tail is much too small.
-Expression is "off." The slightly shy/wary expression of the old version is what gave its personality.
The tiny head and tail on a beefy body though looks weird, like its spent way too much time body-building.
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-Head is much too small.
-Tail is much too small.
-Expression is "off." The slightly shy/wary expression of the old version is what gave its personality.
The tiny head and tail on a beefy body though looks weird, like its spent way too much time body-building.
Cate
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The only thing I dislike about the new one is the swollen look of its face, and rather distant look in its eyes. However, overall, I like it.
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Phantom; I agree with you.
Luxe, riot: Thanks, that makes more sense; I didn't know! <img src="http://images.subeta.net/smilies/6398_emoticon_smile.gif" border="0" />