Cash Shop: Well Hung Meat
The room is brightly lit and smells metallic. Hooks dangle from the ceiling, red stains surround the huge drains on the floor. Somebody is laughing, a deep bellowing laugh that you've heard before, but it hasn't been so sinister as this. The laughter turns to screams. The fearful bleating of a beloved pet goat, mixed with the screams of man. A man that did not want to die. A secret hidden away from everyone. You can't run from it anymore.
Cheap Fabric Bolts will retire on July 1st.
Posted by SubetaTeam
Load this on Kumos site
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- Next
I'll never become vegan. ...But then again I'll also never murder and eat my brother, so there's that.
BUBBLES IS GUNTHER'S BROTHER???
(This is the only thing I got from this entire comment thread)
(This is the only thing I got from this entire comment thread)
Kind of creeped out that apparently we're all supposed to like and admire the nice, charming beer man who loves animals and hosts vegan beer festivals for us...
...and is also a creepy murderer who has never faced justice and probably never will.
Kinda weirding me out.
...and is also a creepy murderer who has never faced justice and probably never will.
Kinda weirding me out.
I'm a meat eater but I don't see this item or plotline as promoting the vegan lifestyle. It's just explaining why a fictional character on a pet site decided to turn vegan. Yes, it's dark but some aspects of Subeta have been dark ever since the site started. What it did make me think of though, are butchers shops which are labelled Family Butchers. :)
I like this
I really hope this whole sibling murder mystery thing gets properly addressed in like a plot or something instead of just bits and pieces here and there
I think it'll be fun
I really hope this whole sibling murder mystery thing gets properly addressed in like a plot or something instead of just bits and pieces here and there
I think it'll be fun
Seriously, if you think Subeta has an agenda; you'd have turned cannibalistic long time ago due to all the zombie based foods etc. Let bygones be bygones; it's just a plot twist for NPCs and battle opportunities.
Alright, to everyone who's tripping out about this event. STOP it's literally just a game. If you don't agree with veganism then disagree with it and move on. No one's trying to guilt you into converting. It's literally just a fun little event for the vegans. Also, there are a TON of items that are non vegan. I'd say 90% of the items are non-vegan with that being said you don't see anyone who's a vegan arguing about those items. Literally, it's not a big deal Subeta is just a game lol. Gosh, I swear meat eaters are more prone to cause conflict about this stuff than vegans lmao. This is coming from a meat eater too.
@soren: I think it's a combination of factors.
I don't think it's the "Go Vegan!" items. Maybe that's because I'm from California and I see stuff like that every day. It's pushy, but it's positively pushy. It's the "Cruelty-Free" and "Friends not Food" stuff. Cruelty-free isn't possible in this world--widespread agriculture and petroleum processing (fake fur and leather do not ACTUALLY grow on trees) destroy animal habitats too. Eating lower on the food chain can be an environmentally friendly thing to do, but not if you are binging on almond milk and quinoa and run around in shoes and fur coats made of petroleum.
2) I personally quite like the Gunter story, BUT, to people like me that grew up around hunting, hunters, and many domestic animals, Gunter's immediate association between killing his brother, killing animals for food, and killing his pet is weird. I'm just chalking it up to PTSD. People who hunt are not tempted to eat their household pets or hunting dogs (unless they're starving and the alternative is eating their family, but we're not talking Donner Party here).
3) Even before this event, there've been item descriptions that read a bit weird and pushy. Like, why do I need to know that the "Nut Roast" is one of many meat-free alternatives for Fireside dinner? Why not tell us what's in it, instead of what's NOT in it? Why does the Eco-Friendly Beef Jerky description contain "even if you are not ready to commit to a meat-free lifestyle", as if eating free-range meat wasn't a positive thing all on its own but rather only the stepping stone to veganism?
Honestly, I think that vegans who are puzzled by negative responses when they say things like "cruelty-free" or "if you are not yet ready to give up meat" think that they are being non-judgemental because they're comparing themselves to people who get up in other people's faces about their food while they're sitting there trying to eat it, or people who throw paint and stick gum onto other people's clothes. But there are still judgements contained in that kind of language. If you can't promote what you're into without putting something else down, something's wrong. Stop telling everyone else what's wrong with their food and tell us what's great about yours.
(If I could eliminate any group of food items from the site with a wish, it would not be the vegan stuff. I'd be hard pressed to choose between getting rid of all the items with poop/pee/pus/vomit in them, or the items that are explicitly made from people and from sapient pets who can understand books and do jobs like running shops, working for the secret service, and designing clothing.)
I don't think it's the "Go Vegan!" items. Maybe that's because I'm from California and I see stuff like that every day. It's pushy, but it's positively pushy. It's the "Cruelty-Free" and "Friends not Food" stuff. Cruelty-free isn't possible in this world--widespread agriculture and petroleum processing (fake fur and leather do not ACTUALLY grow on trees) destroy animal habitats too. Eating lower on the food chain can be an environmentally friendly thing to do, but not if you are binging on almond milk and quinoa and run around in shoes and fur coats made of petroleum.
2) I personally quite like the Gunter story, BUT, to people like me that grew up around hunting, hunters, and many domestic animals, Gunter's immediate association between killing his brother, killing animals for food, and killing his pet is weird. I'm just chalking it up to PTSD. People who hunt are not tempted to eat their household pets or hunting dogs (unless they're starving and the alternative is eating their family, but we're not talking Donner Party here).
3) Even before this event, there've been item descriptions that read a bit weird and pushy. Like, why do I need to know that the "Nut Roast" is one of many meat-free alternatives for Fireside dinner? Why not tell us what's in it, instead of what's NOT in it? Why does the Eco-Friendly Beef Jerky description contain "even if you are not ready to commit to a meat-free lifestyle", as if eating free-range meat wasn't a positive thing all on its own but rather only the stepping stone to veganism?
Honestly, I think that vegans who are puzzled by negative responses when they say things like "cruelty-free" or "if you are not yet ready to give up meat" think that they are being non-judgemental because they're comparing themselves to people who get up in other people's faces about their food while they're sitting there trying to eat it, or people who throw paint and stick gum onto other people's clothes. But there are still judgements contained in that kind of language. If you can't promote what you're into without putting something else down, something's wrong. Stop telling everyone else what's wrong with their food and tell us what's great about yours.
(If I could eliminate any group of food items from the site with a wish, it would not be the vegan stuff. I'd be hard pressed to choose between getting rid of all the items with poop/pee/pus/vomit in them, or the items that are explicitly made from people and from sapient pets who can understand books and do jobs like running shops, working for the secret service, and designing clothing.)
@Starscream
Thank you. I went a few post back to check out to see what happen. Im cool with the vegan food and a event with only those items, not so cool with the Alegarten convertion being that event, but that is life and cant make anyome happy. Taking it this personally to me is bizarre, especially considering that most of us are adults. Probably it would be a good idea to bump down this news section to get this going and move on. Crazy!
Thank you. I went a few post back to check out to see what happen. Im cool with the vegan food and a event with only those items, not so cool with the Alegarten convertion being that event, but that is life and cant make anyome happy. Taking it this personally to me is bizarre, especially considering that most of us are adults. Probably it would be a good idea to bump down this news section to get this going and move on. Crazy!
@Arte
They had Bubbles' part of the story back in February during Survival. He was the challenger and they made an item for his particular nightmare.
They had Bubbles' part of the story back in February during Survival. He was the challenger and they made an item for his particular nightmare.
@surutyo
Pretty much, yeah. This is the craziest I've ever seen for an item release so far.
@Beowulf
What happened was that the site decided to release an item related to Gunter and Bubbles' backstory. The release unfortunately coincided with the newly renamed Alegarten which was given a vegan theme. That, combined with the news post description, stirred up both the angry feelings and the opinions of some that Subeta is trying to force them to adopt said lifestyle. While there have been cooler heads trying to calm things down, it still hasn't quite settled yet.
To me, it's simply an item. And there are others who feel that way, too. But I don't expect this to die down until either after the Subeta holiday is over or until the news post is off the front page. Or both.
Pretty much, yeah. This is the craziest I've ever seen for an item release so far.
@Beowulf
What happened was that the site decided to release an item related to Gunter and Bubbles' backstory. The release unfortunately coincided with the newly renamed Alegarten which was given a vegan theme. That, combined with the news post description, stirred up both the angry feelings and the opinions of some that Subeta is trying to force them to adopt said lifestyle. While there have been cooler heads trying to calm things down, it still hasn't quite settled yet.
To me, it's simply an item. And there are others who feel that way, too. But I don't expect this to die down until either after the Subeta holiday is over or until the news post is off the front page. Or both.
I am not a fan of Gunter now.....please get my precious Oatmeal away from this madman...holy crap... I had no idea that Gunter murdered poor Bubbles until I read through the comments. I'm creeped out.
@picapau
I try hard to be understanding of both sides. I went through a militant stage for a while, but luckily I came to see how ridiculous it was. I've come to realize that worldwide animal rights and veganism is a fantasy idea, as is the "perfect" lifestyle or ideology. Veganism isn't perfect or cruelty free, so I personally never use that label. I just do the best I can, and yes, encourage people to just eat less meat or more humane meat. I think those 2 things alone would make a big impact.
I try hard to be understanding of both sides. I went through a militant stage for a while, but luckily I came to see how ridiculous it was. I've come to realize that worldwide animal rights and veganism is a fantasy idea, as is the "perfect" lifestyle or ideology. Veganism isn't perfect or cruelty free, so I personally never use that label. I just do the best I can, and yes, encourage people to just eat less meat or more humane meat. I think those 2 things alone would make a big impact.
@Altruism
Thanks for your support. I got some profile comments as well and it looks like a lot of people liked what I said. I was worried about how it would come off, but I think I succeeded at keeping the tone polite. I'm willing to give the site another chance since I was wrong in assuming that I would be chewed out by a lot of people. I shouldn't have doubted anyone. It seems that people who agreed reached out, and those who didn't were at least respectful, which is all I can ask for. I hope the staff won't write off the users who are concerned about the intense message the plot line seems to be pushing, and will listen and be more thoughtful in the future.
@Sprinter137
It's always great to remember there are vegans who recognize why some people can be wary of certain vegans who take things to extremes. My problem with this plot line is just how intense the message comes across. I'd love to see more vegan items and NPCs on the site, so people to whom veganism is an important part of their lives could enjoy the site more, and users who are curious about veganism could learn more. I'd just love to see it in a way that's less off-putting.
I'm also realizing there are some things I left out in my first comment, like the reason I mention farm-raised oysters as a good omnivorous B12 option is because of how sustainable the production is; farmers are able to grow algae for the oysters to eat in large tanks with really only sunlight being what the algae needs, and the oysters are (in most cases, companies vary) farmed in water that is kept as clean and healthy as possible since that affects the quality of the oysters. This is more sustainable than farm-raised fish as farmed fish are often fed feed made from wild-caught fish, sort of defeating the purpose of buying fish that are supposed to not affect the ocean populations. Oysters also don't have a central nervous system or brain, so the sensations they feel during death are going to be less intense than an animal with more complex biology. They feel something, I'm sure, so we should still respect that a life is being taken and not take in excess.
I also wanted to expand on another point. I think vegans oftentimes put so much research into animal welfare, but hardly any into human welfare. A lot of synthetic alternatives to animal products often use harsh chemicals that affect the workers handling them, as well as the air we breathe and water we drink. Now, I'm not saying animal products are always produced in ways that are chemical-free and workers are treated well. I just wish that no matter what people were purchasing (animal or synthetic), that they thought further into the real consequences of it. If vegans care so much about treating animals humanely, they should want all animals, humans included, to be treated humanely. I buy about 80% all my clothes and accessories, save bras, socks, and underwear, secondhand to avoid contributing to production processes that are harmful to the earth and people. The other percentage I buy from companies whose practices I agree with, which takes a lot of research as every company wants you to think they deserve an ethical gold star. And remember that Made in the USA isn't enough, as this often means exploitation of people in prison. I'm sharing this piece of information not to claim to be better than those who don't do what I do, but to show people an example of ways to be a more conscientious consumer.
To give vegans an idea of the impact that vegan leather purse they bought could have on the workers who handle the materials, and themselves, here's a quote from an article: "The most common and least expensive type of vegan leather, PVC contains harmful phthalates and chlorine which releases dioxins, one of the deadliest of man-made poisons. It is known to cause cancer, reproductive, developmental, and immune problems in humans."
Again, I'm not saying veganism isn't a good thing or that if you don't get everything 100% right all the time that your veganism is doing nothing. I just think vegans should remember that it's nearly impossible to do no harm with your purchases these days, so cut people a break. Even if they're not vegan, they may be more conscientious about other world issues and even if they're not, treating other humans as less than isn't going to solve anything. If you want people to listen to why veganism is important to you, encourage them to be more vegan with their diet, or anything along those lines, treat people kindly. Share your knowledge with them and let it be an informed choice they're making, not something they're doing because of emotional manipulation.
Thanks for your support. I got some profile comments as well and it looks like a lot of people liked what I said. I was worried about how it would come off, but I think I succeeded at keeping the tone polite. I'm willing to give the site another chance since I was wrong in assuming that I would be chewed out by a lot of people. I shouldn't have doubted anyone. It seems that people who agreed reached out, and those who didn't were at least respectful, which is all I can ask for. I hope the staff won't write off the users who are concerned about the intense message the plot line seems to be pushing, and will listen and be more thoughtful in the future.
@Sprinter137
It's always great to remember there are vegans who recognize why some people can be wary of certain vegans who take things to extremes. My problem with this plot line is just how intense the message comes across. I'd love to see more vegan items and NPCs on the site, so people to whom veganism is an important part of their lives could enjoy the site more, and users who are curious about veganism could learn more. I'd just love to see it in a way that's less off-putting.
I'm also realizing there are some things I left out in my first comment, like the reason I mention farm-raised oysters as a good omnivorous B12 option is because of how sustainable the production is; farmers are able to grow algae for the oysters to eat in large tanks with really only sunlight being what the algae needs, and the oysters are (in most cases, companies vary) farmed in water that is kept as clean and healthy as possible since that affects the quality of the oysters. This is more sustainable than farm-raised fish as farmed fish are often fed feed made from wild-caught fish, sort of defeating the purpose of buying fish that are supposed to not affect the ocean populations. Oysters also don't have a central nervous system or brain, so the sensations they feel during death are going to be less intense than an animal with more complex biology. They feel something, I'm sure, so we should still respect that a life is being taken and not take in excess.
I also wanted to expand on another point. I think vegans oftentimes put so much research into animal welfare, but hardly any into human welfare. A lot of synthetic alternatives to animal products often use harsh chemicals that affect the workers handling them, as well as the air we breathe and water we drink. Now, I'm not saying animal products are always produced in ways that are chemical-free and workers are treated well. I just wish that no matter what people were purchasing (animal or synthetic), that they thought further into the real consequences of it. If vegans care so much about treating animals humanely, they should want all animals, humans included, to be treated humanely. I buy about 80% all my clothes and accessories, save bras, socks, and underwear, secondhand to avoid contributing to production processes that are harmful to the earth and people. The other percentage I buy from companies whose practices I agree with, which takes a lot of research as every company wants you to think they deserve an ethical gold star. And remember that Made in the USA isn't enough, as this often means exploitation of people in prison. I'm sharing this piece of information not to claim to be better than those who don't do what I do, but to show people an example of ways to be a more conscientious consumer.
To give vegans an idea of the impact that vegan leather purse they bought could have on the workers who handle the materials, and themselves, here's a quote from an article: "The most common and least expensive type of vegan leather, PVC contains harmful phthalates and chlorine which releases dioxins, one of the deadliest of man-made poisons. It is known to cause cancer, reproductive, developmental, and immune problems in humans."
Again, I'm not saying veganism isn't a good thing or that if you don't get everything 100% right all the time that your veganism is doing nothing. I just think vegans should remember that it's nearly impossible to do no harm with your purchases these days, so cut people a break. Even if they're not vegan, they may be more conscientious about other world issues and even if they're not, treating other humans as less than isn't going to solve anything. If you want people to listen to why veganism is important to you, encourage them to be more vegan with their diet, or anything along those lines, treat people kindly. Share your knowledge with them and let it be an informed choice they're making, not something they're doing because of emotional manipulation.
This comment section is just insane. Wow.
It's also important to know that pixels will not deter me from wanting to be carnivorous.
It's equally important to add that I'm currently listening to Paul McCartney's "Let it Be".
It's also important to know that pixels will not deter me from wanting to be carnivorous.
It's equally important to add that I'm currently listening to Paul McCartney's "Let it Be".
This is the most weird comment section ever. I went away a week and come to find this. What the hell happen?
@Starscream Good to see someone shares my point of view :P Aside from being an item, it's also a part of Gunter's story, so seriously, why take it so personally... But with the intense shitstorm risen up by some of us, all we can do is just sit down, grab some popcorn and watch, I guess XD
Well, to make it fair and balanced maybe next month we should have a theme of everyone going carnivorous and celebrating heterosexuality since this month is about going vegan and celebrating LGBT+-sexuality.
?? There's an idea! lol
?? There's an idea! lol
Subeta isn’t pushing a “Vegan Agenda”. There are tons of foods on this site and NPC’s that eat meat. I feel no guilt in eating meat, and you shouldn’t let violently political Vegans make you feel bad about it. Death is a part of life.
subeta/gunter are pushing the vegan thing so hard because going vegan is the only way to be 100% sure you're not EATING PEOPLE
SPREAD THE WORD
SPREAD THE WORD
Ok, but how can the other NPCs not know that Bubbles was murdered? He was drowned in a mash tun with the hatch secured from the outside! Even if Gunter did hide the evidence, it's still a clearly suspicious death. He fell in and just couldn't get out again? An experienced brewer taking risks like that? And why didn't his brother help him out again? It's not like Gunter has an alibi. Plus, it's pretty obvious he'd be the one to benefit the most from his brothers death. Slack work, residents of Subeta.
Ya'll over here debating, but me, I'm just lookin' at the well hung meat and waiting for Elwood to comment.
I'm fucking screaming at all the people that are saying this PET SITE is pushing veganism onto them
yeah, like the new pride sashes are trying to convert y'all to not be straight or cis, right? I'm laughing so hard
yeah, like the new pride sashes are trying to convert y'all to not be straight or cis, right? I'm laughing so hard
I, like others, never even thought about Veganism being pushed on me. It's just a storyline and never crossed my mind at all.
this is a messed up plot twist... now, it kinda makes sense why he went vegan... >.> wrong reasons though, dude.
Anyway, I'm still #TeamBubbles and wholeheartedly support him should he learn (remember?) what happened to him and want to seek revenge
I didn't read the entire shitstorm of comments, but do y'all remember when we were told back in February that Gunter murdered Bubbles? This isn't a brand new storyline thought up to push some vegan agenda. This is information that we've had for months, being presented as a nightmare because Gunter supposedly feels real bad about committing fratricide, and it's adding to the backstory that it was part of why he became vegan two years ago.
Like, I get it. I'm not the biggest fan of some of the items this month either, but I definitely don't feel like they're trying to run me off the site for eating meat :/
Like, I get it. I'm not the biggest fan of some of the items this month either, but I definitely don't feel like they're trying to run me off the site for eating meat :/
And with extreme embarrassment please ignore that last question as I've now realised/seen the Bubbles everyone is talking about, dear lord give me strength! Sorry about that.
I think what I'm most curious about is how people would prefer these vegan items to be presented. :0 Is it the items that say things like "go vegan!!" that are mostly upsetting, or is it just the overall theme of veganism? Like, would people prefer if this event didn't have Gunter's backstory at all, and merely was just a "hey, here's some vegan items yay!!!" celebration without the "political" implications? I'm not vegan so maybe it's impossible to separate the politics from veganism (and I just don't know what I'm talking about), but I'm trying to see if there's a way we could compromise, for future Neugartens.
I guess tl;dr, is there a way to separate politics from veganism, at least for the sake of Subeta events? I'd love for this event to continue next year so we can get even more delicious vegan food (my pets' treasures need them!), but I don't want people to get upset, y'know?
I hope this made sense! I really just want us to all be happy and I get stressed when there's a lot of unhappy people on my favorite petsite, haha.
I guess tl;dr, is there a way to separate politics from veganism, at least for the sake of Subeta events? I'd love for this event to continue next year so we can get even more delicious vegan food (my pets' treasures need them!), but I don't want people to get upset, y'know?
I hope this made sense! I really just want us to all be happy and I get stressed when there's a lot of unhappy people on my favorite petsite, haha.
@Altruism
I just wanna say that I'm vegan but I get your points, along with the other commenter's (I'm too lazy to tag them :P). I'm currently healthy but I've only been vegan 2 years, and I admit I do take a daily multivitamin, and I have an inflammatory disease which calls for a mostly plant based diet anyway. But I know that not everyone is the same, and guilting someone for going back to animal products for their health is really low (I myself would do it if need be). However, after being in the vegan community for over a year, I'm not one bit surprised. Most of them are horrible people tbh, I've never seen so much hate and nastiness.
And I DEFINITELY agree that I don't want this political/tumblr crap and its accompanying drama here on subeta. I quit FB and stopped associating with the vegan community for that reason, and I don't want to see this site turn into another SJW drama fest. The items are fine, imo, but there's no need for the agenda or message to be attached. Just release them like any other item
I just wanna say that I'm vegan but I get your points, along with the other commenter's (I'm too lazy to tag them :P). I'm currently healthy but I've only been vegan 2 years, and I admit I do take a daily multivitamin, and I have an inflammatory disease which calls for a mostly plant based diet anyway. But I know that not everyone is the same, and guilting someone for going back to animal products for their health is really low (I myself would do it if need be). However, after being in the vegan community for over a year, I'm not one bit surprised. Most of them are horrible people tbh, I've never seen so much hate and nastiness.
And I DEFINITELY agree that I don't want this political/tumblr crap and its accompanying drama here on subeta. I quit FB and stopped associating with the vegan community for that reason, and I don't want to see this site turn into another SJW drama fest. The items are fine, imo, but there's no need for the agenda or message to be attached. Just release them like any other item
Holy crap! Totally amazed at how much this topic has expanded since back when I first posted!
I bet the @SubetaTeam didn't see this whole pile of gummy worms erupting over the storyline did they, nope they never saw it coming slowly shakes head in mock sadness
I bet the @SubetaTeam didn't see this whole pile of gummy worms erupting over the storyline did they, nope they never saw it coming slowly shakes head in mock sadness
@colorWIRED my head went there too, then I read the story and suddenly Sweeney Todd was playing.
To the vegans/naysayers: it's a game site, you don't have to take things so seriously. The story is in no relation to becoming or being vegan; just about someone who wants to change their ways and sordid past. It's a plot twist, not a "YOU MUST CONFORM TO VEGANISM". Geez. I never thought dietary preference would get as heated as GOP vs Dems.
To the vegans/naysayers: it's a game site, you don't have to take things so seriously. The story is in no relation to becoming or being vegan; just about someone who wants to change their ways and sordid past. It's a plot twist, not a "YOU MUST CONFORM TO VEGANISM". Geez. I never thought dietary preference would get as heated as GOP vs Dems.